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| Soon you too will be able to snub women LIKE A BOSS |
You may remember our friend Christopher in Oregon, a proud woman-hating virgin (from Oregon, presumably) with some interesting theories on what women think about while having sex. He's back with some thoughts on how to live the good life, MGTOW-style. Truly an inspirational post, offering words of encouragement for all those young MGTOWers out there who still can't help getting boners whenever they stop thinking about how much they hate women long enough to start picturing these same women naked. (Ah, the MGTOW Paradox in action again!) CinO, as I'll call him for short, tells these poor young men to hang in there – because eventually these dastardly boners will cease.
Women, even the truly attractive ones, somehow just aren't that attractive once your sex drive starts to disappear. The fog lifts, and you start noticing the annoying and down-right rotten things about women that you never noticed when you were blinded by your sex drive.
You start seeing the physical imperfections that even the prettiest women have. The blemishes. The overuse of cosmetics. Things caught in their teeth. Plaque build-up. Hair on the lip. Less than perfect hair dye. Bad hair cut. Bushy eye brows. Bad breath. The stupid laugh that grates on your nerves. Her lack of knowledge in current affairs. Shit. The list grows ever longer as you grow older, and your patience grows shorter.
Women simply start to annoy by their mere presence after a point in life.
For MGTOWers, CinO explains, life really does begin at forty:
When you hit forty, the situation becomes laughable. If you listen to nothing else I say, boys, trust me on this one:
The satisfaction you get from snubbing or cancelling out on a date at the last minute with a 35+ attractive woman makes the misery you suffered at the hands of women all worth while.
Granted; I never really suffered, as I avoided them, but what the heck, I might as well enjoy it as long as it's being throw in my face.
Yeah, there's nothing quite so satisfying as getting back at women for causing suffering that didn't happen by being really rude to an individual woman who had nothing to do with the original suffering (which never happened)! (Also, I'm guessing this aborted date is fictional as well.) That'll show 'em!
Today, CinO, is free, white (I think), and fortysomething, and living an enviable life riding motorcycles, watching ancient Nazi-based sitcoms, and posting endlessly online about how vile and horrible women are:
I took the last few days off work, and rode my Harley Beasties around. Just because I bloody-well wanted to. Today, I rode all around the snow covered mountains surrounding Mt. St. Helens. An absolute blast. … It sure beat the hell out of spending the day perusing the aisles of K-Mart with a fat bitch of a wife.
I came home, watched movies, a few episodes of Hogan's Heroes, and it's off to bed.
Oh, wait, there is still one tiny little trouble in paradise:
Tomorrow, I stop by the doctor because I've been riding my bikes so much, it's re-activated a long dormant 'roid. Hope he can cure it. lol. Ah, the penalties of being a care-free bachelor. Oops. I meant joys.
Truly an inspiration to us all.
Yes, when I realized that real women don't look like airbrushed Playboy photos, I too stopped getting boners over women.
ReplyDeleteNow I only get them when the McRib comes back.
Motorbikes and TV are cool. I mean, I'd rather watch Fight Club or 300, but different strokes.
ReplyDeleteHas my woman card been revoked yet?
P.S. When you are an adult you will discover that the little imperfections people have-- the roots showing and the stray hairs-- is one of the many features that make them superior to RealDolls.
*revokes Ozy's woman card* You are now a neutral and only get to have sex with both sexes.
ReplyDeleteHEy if being a woman means I can't like bikes, 300 or the fight club then please revoke my woman card too!
ReplyDeleteI have a question...in the past posts MRAS were basically saying you were misrepresenting or cherry picking....but our there any actual non misogynistic MRA blogs....I mean I can counter AROO and Womansspace with Feministing, Femineste,Shakesville Wonamist-musings, and tons of others that are full fo kind hearted people that do activism...EVERY MRA blog seems to be a bunch of bitter men and a few self loathing woman. Who really aren't doning anything to make the world a better place
Women are imperfect and age, unlike men, who glisten like youthful angels until the moment of death. Men also shit roses and piss gold, fyi.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth-- Wow, that's one more sex than before! (Y u no love Ozy, lesbians?)
ReplyDeleteMisanthropic_Buddhist-- Love the name. Well, they're MGTOW, they probably think only dykes* like Fight Club. As if no man-loving woman could appreciate all the half-naked sweaty grappling men... :)
*Huh, maybe it's my language that's turning the lesbians off.
DarkSideCat--yes it is complete narcissism to get being disgusted at women who have the AUDACITY to age and have perfection, while men should NEVER EVER have to worry about imperfections and aging....I mean when are the wonder gender are they not??
ReplyDeleteOzy-Thanks and well duh women obviously are a monolith who hate sex and only like Sex in the City and Twillight and absolutly don't drool over all the men on those shows oh no....also ignore all the slash fiction written about all the men in Star Trek, Supernatural, Star Wars, ok I know way to much about this stuff!!!**
Nah i am sure they know that is just MGTOW speak and not yours:)
**Now watch there will be men calling us shallow for drolling on men instead of enjoying the story, special affects and sci fi, and stuff....
So a dude can cancel on a date with a woman out of sheer spite or caprice and that's okay; but a woman declining a date is cruel?
ReplyDeleteSo a dude can cancel on a date with a woman out of sheer spite or caprice and that's okay; but a woman declining a date is cruel?
ReplyDeleteBut the women started it by failing to observe the "don't reject me ever" rule! Fuckin' women.
LVVS, of course don't you know everything women do is just to hurt men, that's why the entire world is ruled by feminism, and women are constantly falsely accusing men of rape and domestic violence.
ReplyDeleteYes Victoria, because women are the root of all evil...besides she probably has broken many mens hearts and deserves it!
ReplyDeleteGod I am feeling snarky today!
M_B: I think around the time I started referring to myself as a "giant-ass dykeface bitch" in mixed company, the "it's just the MGTOW" excuse lost all credibility. :)
ReplyDeleteClearly there is no such thing! ALL OF LIVEJOURNAL is actualfacts devoted to women talking about their cats, and not "Squeeee Pretty Men Doin' Teh Buttsexx0rs" at all.
lol...hey I lke to call myself a chick ironically but not sure if that is really the same thing...
ReplyDeleteWhatever you do don't go on Supernatural forums...those women are perves...well except the ones on TWOP
Man, I was in Supernatural fandom for years. I'll never forget the look on my male friend's face after he asked me and a female Supernatural-fan friend what "Wincest" is... :)
ReplyDeleteCome on, MRAs, comment. I've had a shitty fucking day, I want to rip a misogynist to shreds on the Internet.
"... any actual non misogynistic MRA blogs"
ReplyDeleteNot too many. Glenn Sacks is a prominent Fathers Rights activist; he doesn't seem to be a misogynist. As for bloggers, Pelle Billing and behind the ToySoldier blog are fairly moderate and serious, but the latter has explicitly said he doesn't consider himself an MRA. (His blog is about abuse of men and boys.)
These blogs are pretty much ignored by the majority of MGTOWers and MRAs online; I rarely see them discussed or linked to. I don't link to them, because they aren't really misogynst.
The Mens Rights subreddit on reddit is a really mixed bag; there's a lot of misogyny and generally retrograde stuff posted there -- sometimes that stuff gets upvoted, and sometimes it gets challenged.
Oh, and Maggie, who posts comments " here, has a MRAish blog; she's not a misogynist (though she somehow manages to ignore all the misogyny there is out there in the "manosphere"..
But again, the blogs I link to include most of the biggest and most popular MRA/MGTOW sites out there, and they are all rife with misogyny -- and those few people who try to challenge the misogyny are shouted down and driven away.
I like that he can complain about women's imperfect hair dye and cosmetic usage and aging as unforgivable flaws in the same post where he brags about his hemorrhoids. Everyone knows a man with a donut-pillow cushion is a status symbol.
ReplyDeleteLooking at that picture makes me uncomfortable. Not that you should do anything about it, I'm just reporting.
ReplyDeleteIt always amazes me the work that people put in to be a total asshole. I'm sure if I devoted lots of time to being an asshole, I'd be good at it too, but for what? It's not like you get a medal or anything. Snubbing someone seems rather petty, when you could have just said "no" in the first place, and gone riding instead.
ReplyDeleteThis guy probably likes to scream at female customer service representatives. He sounds just that childish.
kysokisaen - yeah, what's up with that? Nothing says MGTOW like hemorrhoids?
virgin
ReplyDeleteHave an obsession with male sexuality, eh? Don't you always bitch about men who objectify a woman's sexuality? Isn't even acknowledging the sexual history of a woman, whether she has sex for genuine enjoyment or is always conning men for dinner/money/shelter, enough to get you feminists squaking? And yet here you are, objectifying a man's sexuality. Isn't that funny, and here I thought feminists were bastions of honesty and integrity.
Women are imperfect and age, unlike men, who glisten like youthful angels until the moment of death. Men also shit roses and piss gold, fyi.
ReplyDeleteI loled irl
What does this guy think is being "thrown in his face"?
MRAs seem to commonly hold the belief that women do things to make them feel bad, or "rub in" the fact that they aren't getting any, and stuff like that.
These guys need to realize that no one is throwing anything in their face, because no one cares about them that much.
Also: DESTIEL FOREVER!
Have an obsession with male sexuality, eh? Don't you always bitch about men who objectify a woman's sexuality? Isn't even acknowledging the sexual history of a woman, whether she has sex for genuine enjoyment or is always conning men for dinner/money/shelter, enough to get you feminists squaking? And yet here you are, objectifying a man's sexuality. Isn't that funny, and here I thought feminists were bastions of honesty and integrity.
ReplyDeleteThis is a pile of nonsense. Christopher in Oregon chose to talk about sex in a public venue, and the fact that he has no firsthand experience with sex is pretty relevant. It would be no different if he were a woman.
Mr. String! There you are. <3
ReplyDeleteThat is not what objectification means. To wit, here is a simple example of Objectification and Not Objectification:
Not Objectification: "Wow, I would like to have consensual and mutually enjoyable sex with that lady! She is very attractive."
Objectification: "HURR TITS. CLEARLY SHE HAS NO BRAIN OR AGENCY OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD INTERFERE WITH MY WETTING MY DICK IN HER PUSSY"
Not Objectification: "I am discussing relationships! Perhaps this person I am discussing relationships with has a relevant qualification, such as not being a virgin?"
Objectification: "I am discussing video games! This woman's sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. I will call her a slut anyway, for women do not exist outside of their value to men, and specifically me."
Not Objectification: "Women are people who may like sex or not, with me or not."
Objectification: "Women are pussy dispensers who are sometimes and inexplicably broken."
Also, CinO purports to be an expert on what women are thinking while they're having sex, among other things.
ReplyDeleteI'm not attacking him for his virginity, per se; you won't see me writing posts denouncing celibate/virginal monks, for example. It just seems a bit, you know, relevant, given that he talks endlessly about sex and how evil it is, how disgusting women are, etc etc, online, and indeed sets himself as a sort of expert on it, despite having no experience with sex or evidently much experience with women at all.
"You start seeing the physical imperfections that even the prettiest women have. The blemishes. The overuse of blah blah fuckety blah"
ReplyDeleteSweet zombie jesus, what a fucking whiner. We get it all ready, your leaky crapsack of a carcass is no longer animated by anything but spite. Poor little snowflake didn't get the impossibly perfect and subservient woman he figures was his due as a straight male.
But I shouldn't be so harsh in the face of this kind of suffering. Please, everyone, let's bow our heads and have a moment of silence for that poor hemorrhoid that ended up with a CinO.
One thing I have never heard in my lifetime from the very stereotypical cat-woman hoarder is that they have gotten a one up on men by their life choices. I have met a few of them in my lifetime (some have cats and some don’t). I’m sure they are out there but I’ve yet to meet one. Thanks to the internet though I’ve “met” dozens of their male counterparts who seem to hate a lot.
ReplyDeleteI’ve never felt any animosity from the spinster (using that term for the benefit of our men’s right’s buddies who may have to look up the term) women I have met; in fact I’d say they are either gracious or challenged in one way or another.
What I mean by challenged is some people have no problem memorizing facts and figures but have huge issues in social situations. I feel sorry for their limitations but the first step in getting over your limitations is acknowledging them and then working on these limitations.
Women are more likely to seek help in this regard, string etc… your elementary-high school assessment officer, your parents, brothers and sisters, co-workers, people you run into who won’t look you in the eye and the various other people in your life if you would just for a second get off your computer and see for a moment are not wrong about you.
I know at this point you want to come back with an “I am not but you are” argument. I say bullshit. Your “activism” is solely based on the Internet where anyone can write anything. All anonymous with no consequences, how brave you are.
Bravery would be in your situation deciding you need help and getting it.
Sweet zombie jesus, what a fucking whiner.
ReplyDeleteYeah, a feminist is in a prime position to bitch about whining.
@Oz:
ReplyDeleteCome on, MRAs, comment. I've had a shitty fucking day, I want to rip a misogynist to shreds on the Internet.
Well, I'd call that Mission Accomplished.
"You start seeing the physical imperfections that even the prettiest women have. The blemishes. The overuse of blah blah fuckety blah"
ReplyDeleteSweet zombie jesus, what a fucking whiner. We get it all ready, your leaky crapsack of a carcass is no longer animated by anything but spite. Poor little snowflake didn't get the impossibly perfect and subservient woman he figures was his due as a straight male.
But I shouldn't be so harsh in the face of this kind of suffering. Please, everyone, let's bow our heads and have a moment of silence for that poor hemorrhoid that ended up with a CinO.
Again, I loled irl. These comments are good for laughs.
"You start seeing the physical imperfections that even the prettiest women have."
ReplyDeleteAnd you cannot see why women don't want you? It is because you are shallow as a paddling pool in the Sahara.
And of course CinO is a virtual Greek god, a physical specimen of otherworldly perfection, with nary a blemish or an unruly eyebrow hair.
ReplyDeleteYeah. Somehow I get the feeling he would not seem out of place perusing the aisles of his local K-Mart for crappy, Chinese-made Harley Davidson t-shirts.
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ReplyDeleteSociety couldn't, and shouldn't, care less about whether men like these ever get sex from a woman.
ReplyDeleteWhat we ought to be concerned about is that even one or two of them ever lay a hand on a woman in anger.
Once they've been indoctrinated to see women as the kind of garbage the manosphere teaches, what's going to stop them from dishing out the worst kind of brutality?
Admittedly, it would have to be the stone crazy sociopaths that got that far. 99.9999 of the movement are just talking shit and won't ever put their money where their mouths are.
But the movement itself IS crazy. I don't see anything much in it to reassure us that one day there isn't going to be blood spilled in its name.
Thanks David! The blogs you mentioned seem to be actually talking about mens issues without blaming women and they seem like good guys, and actually seemt o be doing ACTIVISM especially Toy Soldier!
ReplyDeleteAlso notice MRAs tend to play gotcha! Instead of argueing actual points they play the OHHHHHHHH you shamed his virginity by saying he was a virgin or you said he was an ugly person and I am going to take what you say out of context!!!!
Apologies for posting what I did in ignorance of the fact that blood has been spilled in the name of the manospheric fringe. See David's piece on the Gunwitch case, which I found immediately afterwards.
ReplyDeleteGlenn Sacks and Toysoldier aren't misogynists? I (and many feminists) would dispute that. Although they don't display the cartoonish level of hatred that someone like "Christopher in Oregon" does, they nontheless act as though men matter more than women. And they're quite consistent (I've followed the writings of both gentlemen for years) in their belief that gender relations are a zero-sum game; i.e., that any gains for women mean an automatic loss for men. Their difference from "Christopher" is a matter of degree rather than kind.
ReplyDeleteI certainly have issues with Sacks, and I do think most of his central assumptions about gender are wrongheaded and sexist, but nothing I've read of his has been blatantly misogynistic. I have not read all that much from Toysoldier.
ReplyDeleteChristopher in Oregon posted an entire series of "actual" conversations he had with a female friend who was trying to set him up with one of her gal pals (see Marky Mark's blog). Gal pal was calling/chasing/stalking the charming Christopher because…????
ReplyDeleteSome choose virginity, others have it chosen for them.
This Oregon dude really IS the "Forever Alone Guy"!
ReplyDeleteAy yi yi. I'm reading the "actual" conversations now. They go on and on and on. I'm guessing they bear about as much resemblance to any real-world conversations he's had as, I dunno, my cat's memory of how often she's been fed recently bears to how often she's actually been fed recently.
ReplyDeletehere's the url for the first one:
http://markymarksthoughts.blogspot.com/2011/02/annoying-interruption-by-christopher-in.html
From David's link: I was sitting out on my porch the other morning, smoking one of my lovely antique pipes, luxuriating in the essence of my cherry-vanilla blend of tobacco that my seller of all fine things tobacco-related prepares for yours truly. A very serene moment for a bachelor. All was well with the world.
ReplyDeleteIs this guy for real?
When I read it, I thought that the beginning was quite believable - a guy gets a call from a friend of a friend, who wants to set him up. But it quickly devolved into misogynist caricature. Maybe the beginning really did happen, and the rest is pure fantasy.
ReplyDeleteYeah, a feminist is in a prime position to bitch about whining.
ReplyDeleteAwww, e-string, am I not showing enough empathy for the plight of this poor ass-pile? What a rough life he must have. I can't imagine the energy it must take to complain about all the women who fail to appreciate his charming personality and no-doubt classic good looks.
Is this one of these men we're supposed to be worried about leaving us wimpy white-knight male feminists to try and defend the realm from the dusky hordes come to cleave our heads loose with their scimitars? If so, good. If it ever came down to it, he'd probably set a world speed record for dropping to his knees to praise Allah out of a combination of fear and joy at the prospect of living in a country where women would know their proper place.
Me, I see bitterly angry little fuckers like this as one of the main reason I teach women to shoot. Flimsy vessels like CinO can't contain that much hate without coming apart and endangering people around them.
My cell phone started to ring, jarring me back to reality. I pondered who would be ruining my solitary moment when I'm at peace with my surroundings, and, but of course, it was a woman.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't pondering imply an amount of thought that would give the phone ample time to go to voicemail? And I note that it was a woman inconsiderate enough to call him when he was clearly IN THE MIDDLE OF REACHING NIRVANA, YOU RELENTLESS HARPY, but it was a man who brought the phone to his relaxation spot and didn't set it on silent.
Lady V-I have the same feeling since each answer is perfect and she makes every type of mistake they claim women make.
ReplyDeleteChris in Oregon can't possibly be real, right? I mean, that post reads like Ignatius J. Reilly fanfiction. He was probably just crabby because his valve was acting up that day.
ReplyDeleteAlthough if it's in any way real, I'm mostly pissed at his friend for trying to subject another woman to this remarkable specimen. Even it was someone she really hated, that's not cool.
ReplyDeleteI like that she's a delicate Christian woman who can't handle a mildly off-color greeting but then plays the lonely homosexual masturbator card like right off the bat. Ruth certainly came to that fight with both guns blazing. Also, I have trouble believing that any good Christian woman named Ruth is really that disgusted by cats. A woman who would clutch her pearls over a siamese cat in the bed has no business living in Oregon.
ReplyDeleteWow, I can't beleive I read the whole 7 part saga...all 3 of them sound like douchecanoes if that exchange really happened like that....which I doubt. I mean a meek Christian woman who boldy calls a guy she barely knows and begs him to date a friend, who is totally homophobic and hates cats but is a feminist, and randomly says a particular woman is hot to a guy she barely knows...yeah calling shenagens.
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