tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post7720468977171299403..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: OkCupid can read your mindAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-77338034141539459822011-04-23T01:57:22.744-05:002011-04-23T01:57:22.744-05:00Look at the differences between the rough sex male...Look at the differences between the rough sex males and females. Not only do they like different things, they place different values on the stuff they do commonly like. This could be random chance or more likely that men and women are different within the general commonalities they share as being humans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-24660366710531808502011-04-23T01:12:58.850-05:002011-04-23T01:12:58.850-05:00"physiognomy is making a comeback."
Wow..."physiognomy is making a comeback."<br /><br />Wow. Welcome to the 19th century everyone!<br /><br />Yea, I get that OKCupid was talking about the kind of sex people like. But David was using this in his own entry to talk about men and women. <br /><br />"Take the latest post – thanks to Feministe for alerting me to it – which presents an assortment of creative charts -- like the one above, depicting some of the actual differences between men and women on the site."<br /><br />"Most of the rest of the charts in the latest post don't specifically contrast men and women"<br /><br />Sorry if I misinterpreted, but to me it sounded like David was saying that the chart proved the genderist position, which is why I piped up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-42635360636638901332011-04-22T16:48:10.087-05:002011-04-22T16:48:10.087-05:00Francois-physiognomy is making a comeback.
Plus, ...Francois-<a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126957.300-how-your-looks-betray-your-personality.html?full=true" rel="nofollow">physiognomy is making a comeback.</a><br /><br />Plus, this last post of yours makes no sense-Okcupid is not saying there are not infinite differences among humans, it is saying that within the group of people who have posted on their site and answering their endless questions, these differences show up in the sexes and the type of actual sex they like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-77004772260474042972011-04-22T15:39:48.889-05:002011-04-22T15:39:48.889-05:00No... I didn't say the words were written &quo...No... I didn't say the words were written "randomly." But people have a wide variety of interests. What I am saying is that taking these statistical variances and making a case of them is fallacious, hence my physiognomy analogy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-62963426397312102152011-04-22T15:25:44.998-05:002011-04-22T15:25:44.998-05:00Huh? Where did I say anything about "proving&...Huh? Where did I say anything about "proving" anything? <br /><br />Again, there ARE differences between men and women. A few of those are biological; most are cultural. Do you disagree with that? <br /><br />Also, the ways that people choose to define themselves on a dating site DOES actually suggest things about their personalities. That, after all, is why they post descriptions of themselves on dating sites - to tell people what they are like. These aren't just random words. In other words, it's NOT the same as trying to find correlations between head shape and criminality.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-89585579413046747572011-04-22T15:12:11.886-05:002011-04-22T15:12:11.886-05:00"it's... silly to dismiss OkCupid's d..."it's... silly to dismiss OkCupid's data entirely"<br /><br />It is as reasonable to dismiss OKCupid's statistical variations as it is to dismiss the statistical variations used by the physiognomy to determine the "facial features of criminals." <br /><br />"If you're a guy looking for a gal with whom to have rough sex, you're probably going to do better concentrating on women who talk about their piercings rather than on how "old-fashioned" they are."<br /><br />What? You're diverting the topic. Neither of us said anything about the rough sex/gentle sex aspect until now. The correlation between rough sex and certain interests was not the topic of discussion, but the fact that you concluded that it "proved" differences between men and women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-67769051349456590282011-04-22T05:30:39.925-05:002011-04-22T05:30:39.925-05:00Also, I never said that the differences in what pe...Also, I never said that the differences in what people told OkCupid were rooted in biology. (My only example of a biologically rooted difference was the fact that dudes can't bear children.) I think that many if not most differences between men and women are cultural. <br /><br />But it's as silly to dismiss OkCupid's data entirely as it is to draw any grand conclusions about the inherent nature of men and women from it. Certain interests and personality traits DO tend to go together, and it looks like the way in which these get expressed varies amongst men and women. <br /><br />If you're a guy looking for a gal with whom to have rough sex, you're probably going to do better concentrating on women who talk about their piercings rather than on how "old-fashioned" they are. And it's not just that certain personality characteristics tend to cluster together -- lots of studies show that people who are more adventurous in certain areas (like getting piercings in weird places) also tend to be more adventurous in other realms (like sex). "Piercings" and "rough sex" tend to suggest people who are sensation-seekers. <br /><br />Sure, there are probably plenty of "old-fashioned" women who like rough sex too, but people writing profiles on a dating site are trying to signal certain things about themselves without necessarily spelling everything out. Words have meaning, and they also have associations. Someone wanting to signal that they're into rough sex may be more inclined to talk about their piercings, or punk, etc etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-40252620105458126052011-04-22T04:34:25.438-05:002011-04-22T04:34:25.438-05:00Actually there is no fallacy. David merely comment...Actually there is no fallacy. David merely comments on the interesting co-relations one can draw up on the data collected from a dating website. <br /><br />Nearly 100% of asthmatics have hypoallergenic pillows. That does not mean hypo-allergenic pillows have any co-relation to causing asthma. Likewise this is just a raw collection of stats that David mentioned. I am pretty sure there is no co-relation between oral sex and what you eat.Avicennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369807472540249918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-15099134375047410882011-04-21T15:22:19.341-05:002011-04-21T15:22:19.341-05:00David, you and OKCupid are committing a statistica...David, you and OKCupid are committing a statistical fallacy. Just like the 19th century "experts" who used statistics to "prove" that criminals had certain facial features, you are using small, normal statistical deviations to "prove" that men and women are different. The fact of the matter is that the frequency of such words, like anything else, will fluctuate naturally, and we should expect some to be more used than others. <br /><br />You are also committing a fallacy of False Cause. Because men and women are found to have some different profile words, you conclude that this is because men and women are different (that this alleged difference creates the different profile words). And yet, it could equally be the case that it is our gender-based culture (as exemplified in these profile words) that creates the "differences."<br /><br />In short, another genderist argument based on bad logic. I'm not saying the case cannot be made, but at least try to do it rationally (personally I think it's bullshit, but I know I'm in the minority, so I won't belabor the point).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-24420603560387120272011-04-21T08:06:45.529-05:002011-04-21T08:06:45.529-05:00;) since when do PETA care about statistics and sc...;) since when do PETA care about statistics and science?Avicennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369807472540249918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-71692942432338267092011-04-20T20:33:31.699-05:002011-04-20T20:33:31.699-05:00Also, notice that vegetarians give more oral sex. ...<i>Also, notice that vegetarians give more oral sex. Possible new slogan for PETA?</i><br /><br />The chart is saying vegetarians give less. See the ratios?Nahidahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09263590838776452475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-4831841415244641272011-04-20T19:53:39.616-05:002011-04-20T19:53:39.616-05:00I once knew a man from Nantucket. Let's just ...I once knew a man from Nantucket. Let's just say that the stories about him are <i>greatly</i> exaggerated. <br /><br />h/t SimpsonsCaptain Bathrobehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09973484859938392410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-12426866079065870672011-04-20T18:28:17.007-05:002011-04-20T18:28:17.007-05:00Has teleportation been perfected yet? Cuz a molec...Has teleportation been perfected yet? Cuz a molecule could go that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-51026018039414814792011-04-20T16:21:31.001-05:002011-04-20T16:21:31.001-05:00http://yoyodawgdawg.com/18/yo-dawg-boatshttp://yoyodawgdawg.com/18/yo-dawg-boatsJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00106218860128550444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-17821001757508365212011-04-20T15:53:57.267-05:002011-04-20T15:53:57.267-05:00When I fly (in a plane,in a helicopter, or by flap...When I fly (in a plane,in a helicopter, or by flapping my arms), I call that "boating." They're all boats, if you use a sufficiently flexible definition of "boat."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-32868950795294874182011-04-20T12:11:16.968-05:002011-04-20T12:11:16.968-05:00Most. Inaccurate. Post. Ever.
You can totally get...Most. Inaccurate. Post. Ever.<br /><br />You can totally get to Nantucket in other kinds of vehicles, including airplanes, submarines, hovercrafts, jet skis, hot air balloons, hang gliders (OK, maybe not hang gliders), and yes, jet packs.<br /><br />Plus you could just swim there.<br /><br />If you have no credibility on how to get to Nantucket, then how do you have any credibility on any of the things that happen in limericks about men from Nantucket?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00106218860128550444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-48234234262236823782011-04-20T12:03:54.918-05:002011-04-20T12:03:54.918-05:00Wait... people can tell I like rough sex just by m...Wait... people can tell I like rough sex just by my handle?Cynickalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10736009933475040997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-83812820029482125232011-04-20T07:49:43.672-05:002011-04-20T07:49:43.672-05:00Ozymandias?
- Vegetarians eat only one kind of me...Ozymandias?<br /><br />- Vegetarians eat only one kind of meat...<br /><br />would that work?Avicennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369807472540249918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-39116389116081822242011-04-20T03:22:05.421-05:002011-04-20T03:22:05.421-05:00The people who like it rough prefer Scotland, gene...<i>The people who like it rough prefer Scotland, generally.</i><br /><br />Hence the saying, "Lube up and think of Scotland."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-42223066467077641882011-04-20T01:58:16.394-05:002011-04-20T01:58:16.394-05:00The people who like it rough prefer Scotland, gene...The people who like it rough prefer Scotland, generally.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112168320194235072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-38252063505074227202011-04-19T23:31:57.623-05:002011-04-19T23:31:57.623-05:00red_locker: I was thinking the same thing. Betwee...red_locker: I was thinking the same thing. Between this blog and Pharyngula, I already lose hours, days, weeks of my life. Thanks <i>a lot</i> David!Iris Vander Pluymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09069078109215726939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-56045350718466179282011-04-19T22:55:20.754-05:002011-04-19T22:55:20.754-05:00Lady Victoria, I thought that was hilarious.Lady Victoria, I thought that was hilarious.Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06306497842941350537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-27016657230199090082011-04-19T22:15:54.090-05:002011-04-19T22:15:54.090-05:00Am I the only one amused that 'England' is...Am I the only one amused that 'England' is a common word used by people who like gentler sex?The Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08471780246865265141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-23032969893755017252011-04-19T22:11:43.658-05:002011-04-19T22:11:43.658-05:00Also, notice that vegetarians give more oral sex.(...Also, notice that vegetarians give more oral sex.(Ozy)<br /><br />Damn, I cant help myself. Maybe its because they are lacking meat. <br />Whoa, remember, that goes both ways.;)Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-40371063424272896912011-04-19T21:55:31.574-05:002011-04-19T21:55:31.574-05:00Depends on what the meaning of the word "gent...Depends on what the meaning of the word "gentle" is I would say Aydan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com