tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post7297933705273053610..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: Two Holes Don't Make a Right, and other somewhat baffling MGTOW slogansAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-66620767750989977522011-04-08T15:13:33.179-05:002011-04-08T15:13:33.179-05:00I've read this post again and again and I just...I've read this post again and again and I just can't figure out your hole count. Assuming men and woman both have nostrils (2), ears (2), mouths (1), butts (1), and urtheras (1) and only woman have vaginas then men have 7 and woman have 8.<br /><br />Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!Renée Yoxonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07150372643926571650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-37224725483487148032011-04-05T19:29:10.655-05:002011-04-05T19:29:10.655-05:00Suggestions for the MRA bumperstickers:
Have You ...Suggestions for the MRA bumperstickers:<br /><br />Have You Hugged A Mammoth Hunter Today?<br /><br />Bitch, Buy Your Own Dinner<br /><br />My Other Means Of Compensating Is A Gun<br /><br />Gimme My Rib Back<br /><br />Real Men Die Alone<br /><br />If You Are Offended By This<br />You Should Be In The KitchenOffonoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00617764342155764204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-62850598486428586292011-04-05T10:34:58.448-05:002011-04-05T10:34:58.448-05:00Darksidecat said:
"A day in the life of tit ...Darksidecat said:<br /><br />"A day in the life of tit for tat...<br /><br />Man does something bad.<br /><br />tit for tat frantically searches for the nearest woman to the situation to blame." <br /><br />As opposed to our western justice system in which when a woman does something bad, the judges look for the nearest MAN to blame! In Canada, when a mom drowned her kids, the judge in this case, blamed the dad for driving her to do it, without even any evidence! In our misandric culture, I can't think of a judge who would blame a mom for oppressing her husband into killing his kids! You got the double standard backwards.<br /><br />you said: "Is it really that hard of a fucking concept that people who do acts of violence are responsible and accountable for their acts of violence?" Unless they are women. Then judges in western society will be more likely to forgive them, and give them understanding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-86816276469076796692011-04-05T10:14:07.751-05:002011-04-05T10:14:07.751-05:00Amused, a lot of you Feminists who always scream &...Amused, a lot of you Feminists who always scream "bigotry! Hate! are the biggest haters of all!! "Feminist" politicians are warmongers, just like the right-wing, <br />They take away our civil liberties also! You are NOT against bigotry, by putting on the Feminist label! You are for bigotry under a different ideologyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-37803024926970066222011-04-03T18:25:55.876-05:002011-04-03T18:25:55.876-05:00It's alright, but I hope you realize your wife...It's alright, but I hope you realize your wife doesn't necessarily speak for me.(Amused)<br /><br />Nor do you speak for her, or my mother, who was widowed at 31 with 3 children and obtained a Masters in Social Work over the next 8 yrs. <br /><br />I was about to attempt to discuss the rest of your post but then I realized I am the fool here. Good luck in your future.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-38217957639754516282011-04-03T18:11:19.198-05:002011-04-03T18:11:19.198-05:00Tit for Tat: I have, on some of the MRA sites. You...Tit for Tat: <i>I have, on some of the MRA sites. You see, I am not entrenched in either side. I actually think both sides have some words of wisdom and some nut cases. The video was tongue in cheek, my wife and I were both laughing when we heard it. Sorry for the cheap attempt at humour. ;)</i><br /><br />It's alright, but I hope you realize your wife doesn't necessarily speak for me. I started working before I was a teenager and carried huge responsibilities at home from an early age. I've always worked my ass off and never had a man support me. That's true also of my mother, my grandmothers and my great-grandmothers (the latter were peasants who worked back-breaking labor from sun up to sun down, with no weekends or vacations). So a "hint" directed at me in the form of a song about a woman who does nothing all day and works a man to death for her luxuries does not refer to any reality that I'm familiar with -- but it sure evokes a familiar, ugly stereotype that reminds me that misogyny is alive and well, as I previously described. One of its most blatant manifestations, found all over MRA sites and certainly in the comments of this site, is that women's labor is thankless, unvalued and unrecognized. Well, sure, you might say you value and recognize <i>your wife's</i> labor -- but that does not stop you from presuming that a woman who is a stranger is a useless waste of space. And that is just as unfair and bigoted as if every man was presumed to be a rapist and an abuser.<br /><br /><i>If it makes you feel better, I laughed at the woman kicking the man in the balls on the Big Bang Theory on Thursday. </i><br /><br />It doesn't, because it's irrelevant. There is no getting around the fact that violence is often set up to be funny in movies and sitcoms, and people can't help laughing at it. But it has nothing to do with your presumption that I discussed above.<br /><br /><i>Even my daughter thought it was really funny, though when I pointed out that not many would be laughing if it was a woman being kicked by a man in the crotch, her laugh was a little more subdued.</i><br /><br />Well, yeah, this one gets dragged out a lot by MRA's, so let's addressed it. The difference between the portrayal of a man getting kicked in the crotch versus a woman being kicked in the crotch is IRONY. In our culture, not only are men perceived as the aggressor sex, but male genitalia itself symbolizes power, success, domination and aggression. Did you know that the Medici family had an image of balls on their crest? And yes, those balls symbolized the Medicis' cannonball-sized balls. Quite simply, balls=power and penis=aggression, so when that part of the male anatomy is revealed to be, in fact, extremely vulnerable, this is <i>ironic</i> and that's why it's funny. By contrast, female genitalia is associated with submission, subjugation, helplessness, degradation and lack of agency. An image of a woman being hit in the crotch or raped isn't funny because it lacks irony -- it's a representation that's consistent with how women are perceived. Balls are supposed to be invincible, so when a single swift kick proves they aren't, and are shown to be in some ways a liability, people laugh. Vaginas are supposed to be there for degradation and service, so when they are degraded and exploited, people don't laugh because this is just how things are.<br /><br />I wish MRA's would remember that when they describe someone as "having balls" or tell someone to "stop being such a girl".Amusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08022757117571638422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-53335770447531086982011-04-03T11:11:27.318-05:002011-04-03T11:11:27.318-05:00Trip said : I think her mother was an awful, awful...<i>Trip said : I think her mother was an awful, awful person. I feel nothing but loathing and contempt for her mother for being too self-centered to even admit that this was happening to her own daughter.<br /><br />But that doesn't make her responsible EVEN PARTLY for any given act of rape. She's responsible for choosing terrible husbands, certainly. She's responsible for looking the other way. But those men were rapists and abusers. They'll rape and abuse whether or not that particular woman marries them. No woman pushed them to do what they did.</i><br /><br /><br />If she has no responsibility then why is she an awful person? I find this to be a contradiction.Kavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08392976500592249590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-86137916460115315222011-04-03T07:48:17.548-05:002011-04-03T07:48:17.548-05:00However, a lot of the time, when this idea pops up...<i>However, a lot of the time, when this idea pops up on MRM sites, it translates into the idea that all mothers are awful people who abuse and neglect their children, and all people who commit violence do so because of problems stemming from an abusive mother. It's true that not every mother is an ideal mother, but many of those inmates I'm talking about were abused by male relatives.</i><br /><br />I have also read on some MRM sites (and not to say that ALL MRAs or FRAs have said this) the blatant lie that if abuse occurs at the hands of a male relative, that relative would NEVER be the biological father. So yet again, the "finger-pointing" is directed back at the mother, specifically those mothers who are the custodial parents not partnered with the biological father.<br />In one of the occupations I have had during my lifetime, I have dealt with fathers who had abused (sexual and/or otherwise) their biological children, and the admittance came from their own lips, not from the mother "falsely" accusing them.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789436253418072535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-54469914888857999942011-04-03T07:24:28.525-05:002011-04-03T07:24:28.525-05:00I mean, if I'm an abusive asshole to my boyfri...I mean, if I'm an abusive asshole to my boyfriend, can I blame my father? If a man can blame his mother for turning him into an abuser, surely it works the other way round?(Lady vic)<br /><br />If your father continually put you in harms way he should definately be held accountable. Afterall you were a child, wasnt it his responsibility to protect you?Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-54602341844112420502011-04-03T07:20:46.610-05:002011-04-03T07:20:46.610-05:00Bee
I appreciate your last comment.Bee<br /><br />I appreciate your last comment.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-85111302310934431062011-04-03T07:11:08.902-05:002011-04-03T07:11:08.902-05:00Trip
You sure do like throw insults at me and oth...Trip<br /><br />You sure do like throw insults at me and others. I get this sense you have a lot of unresolved anger(you sure youre not an MRA). My wife says that is usually a sign someone is very sad. I hope you feel better soon.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-51558539661211053882011-04-03T07:06:22.808-05:002011-04-03T07:06:22.808-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-90480313692358239972011-04-03T02:53:51.633-05:002011-04-03T02:53:51.633-05:00So women who abuse men are to be held responsible ...So women who abuse men are to be held responsible for that abuse. And women who raise men in such a way that they become abusive are also to be held responsible for that abuse. And women who are partnered with an abuser are responsible for abuse that targets other people, too. <br /><br />Tell me again when and where the men have to take responsibility for their abusive behavior? <br /><br />I mean, if I'm an abusive asshole to my boyfriend, can I blame my father? If a man can blame his mother for turning him into an abuser, surely it works the other way round?The Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08471780246865265141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-20682003310560728432011-04-03T00:58:21.459-05:002011-04-03T00:58:21.459-05:00It's not like I think women are perfect. Brige...It's not like I think women are perfect. Briget's experience is eerily similar to an ex-girlfriend's of mine, who was raped and abused by multiple of her mother's husbands. I think her mother was an awful, awful person. I feel nothing but loathing and contempt for her mother for being too self-centered to even <i>admit</i> that this was happening to her own daughter.<br /><br />But that doesn't make her responsible EVEN PARTLY for any given act of rape. She's responsible for choosing terrible husbands, certainly. She's responsible for looking the other way. But those men were rapists and abusers. They'll rape and abuse whether or not that particular woman marries them. No woman pushed them to do what they did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-32976912717326284122011-04-03T00:58:03.934-05:002011-04-03T00:58:03.934-05:00Without a doubt(I believe) men are more physically...<i>Without a doubt(I believe) men are more physically violent. One thing I think we have to ask ourselves is, how did they get that way, and who is accountable for this. Until we look at the responsibility of both genders in this we will continue ignore the fact that it takes 2 to dance the dance.</i><br /><br />I love how you used briget's personal experience with abuse as a self-serving springboard to apologize for abusive men, you disgusting maggot.<br /><br />I've seen this whole "hmm well we have to look at the responsibility of both parties" bullshit used to attempt to soften the crimes of male abusers many, many times, so I'm not buying your shtick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-25871090312586032752011-04-03T00:04:47.463-05:002011-04-03T00:04:47.463-05:00Maybe this is not what is under discussion right n...Maybe this is not what is under discussion right now, but re. abusers/responsibility: I work with victims, and I also have done some work with inmates. Not to take this conversation too far astray, but when I read Tit for Tat's comment, I was thinking about the fact that almost all of the inmates I've met are themselves victims of abuse. Violence and a lack of empathy (usually) don't come from nowhere.<br /><br />However, a lot of the time, when this idea pops up on MRM sites, it translates into the idea that all mothers are awful people who abuse and neglect their children, and all people who commit violence do so because of problems stemming from an abusive mother. It's true that not every mother is an ideal mother, but many of those inmates I'm talking about were abused by male relatives. But I kind of hate to even note that, because it comes off as finger-pointing. Frankly, my concern is not that one sex is more prone to violence, but that violence is a cycle.<br /><br />In short, I think you're both right, generally. Adults are responsible for their own actions, good and bad, but violence generally starts somewhere.Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06390127132630836355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-29221800059303188922011-04-02T23:56:45.901-05:002011-04-02T23:56:45.901-05:00A day in the life of tit for tat...
Man does some...A day in the life of tit for tat...<br /><br />Man does something bad.<br /><br />tit for tat frantically searches for the nearest woman to the situation to blame.<br /><br />Is it really that hard of a fucking concept that people who do acts of violence are responsible and accountable for their acts of violence? People who negligently sit by are blameworty as well, but let us not forget men are grown ass fucking humans capable of being responsible for their actions with or without any woman around for you to point the finger at.DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-47481615241096536112011-04-02T21:20:30.701-05:002011-04-02T21:20:30.701-05:00Oh really, and the adult woman has no accountabili...Oh really, and the adult woman has no accountability in exposing her child to the same abusive situation over and over. Reminds me of the person who drives drunk and then claims they have a disease and its not their fault. Oh yeah, she's a victim, right? We're not talking child accountability, but you know that. Im glad my daughter knows that difference, seems you didnt learn that lesson.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-1047273053027815052011-04-02T19:15:36.067-05:002011-04-02T19:15:36.067-05:00"Without a doubt(I believe) men are more phys..."Without a doubt(I believe) men are more physically violent. One thing I think we have to ask ourselves is, how did they get that way, and who is accountable for this." Accepting your premise, that men are more physically (does sexually lump in there) violent, then men are most responsible for physical and sexual violence. Don't victim blame. It does not take "two to dance" and how dare you say that in a discussion where the previous posts were about rape and abuse of a child. Abuse is the fault of the abuser, period. No one, but especially no child, deserves abuse. Go fuck yourself, tit for tat.DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-83831137294902150992011-04-02T18:10:26.288-05:002011-04-02T18:10:26.288-05:00People still BUY dogs?People still BUY dogs?Nahidahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09263590838776452475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-50763391557556081482011-04-02T15:24:37.924-05:002011-04-02T15:24:37.924-05:00Bee
Ok, well, it wouldnt be the first time. :)Bee<br /><br />Ok, well, it wouldnt be the first time. :)Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-48565500129345645042011-04-02T15:19:08.334-05:002011-04-02T15:19:08.334-05:00Tit for Tat: Did I misinterpret this?
Apparently ...Tit for Tat: <i>Did I misinterpret this?</i><br /><br />Apparently you did.Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06390127132630836355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-55967600107163431262011-04-02T15:14:18.288-05:002011-04-02T15:14:18.288-05:00Bee
Did I misinterpret this?
Oh, and to make a c...Bee<br /><br />Did I misinterpret this?<br /><br />Oh, and to make a comment that's actually on topic. Re. MRA slogans: What's wrong with We Hunted the Mammoth to Feed You?<br /><br />Reclaim the mammoth!(Bee)Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-36888218454247993822011-04-02T15:12:46.557-05:002011-04-02T15:12:46.557-05:00Briget
Actually I believe that when we look at al...Briget<br /><br />Actually I believe that when we look at all aspects of abuse and causes we will truly get to the heart of the matter. Without a doubt(I believe) men are more physically violent. One thing I think we have to ask ourselves is, how did they get that way, and who is accountable for this. Until we look at the responsibility of both genders in this we will continue ignore the fact that it takes 2 to dance the dance.Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-648268414949201702011-04-02T15:09:42.099-05:002011-04-02T15:09:42.099-05:00Tit for Tat: I just find it interesting that you c...Tit for Tat: <i>I just find it interesting that you classify all MRA's the same.</i><br /><br />What makes you think I do?Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06390127132630836355noreply@blogger.com