tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post5169163622662923150..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: Consent. It's so ... American.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-35779899670360320342010-11-28T21:13:58.738-06:002010-11-28T21:13:58.738-06:00@snobographer, exactly. No child should have to ...@snobographer, exactly. No child should have to endure sexual harassment in school, period. The fact is that children can be and are raped and assaulted by other children. <br /><br />The issue in schools is 'zero tolerance' policies. Just as the best way to deal with a five year old commiting another form of assault is to address it and give punishment appropriate for their age, the same applies to sexual harassment. A note and an aspirin isn't the same as breast groping and cocaine, and a reasonable school discipline policy should address that. Sexual harassment of children by other children in schools is a serious issue that needs to be dealt with, but zero tolerance policies are not a good discipline model in any area.<br /><br />On the issue of children commiting violent crimes, this is a difficult issue for legal systems to deal with in general. On one hand, it generally seems to harsh to punish a child the same as an adult, even for the same crime, on the other hand, the victim has endured the same damage.<br /><br />@IR, "you acknowledge that without feminism, men like Andy Worhal would still be alive" Warhol died from complications of a gall bladder surgery. That hardly seems to be the fault of feminism. Feminsim, destroying one gallbladder at a time. "battered men would not be shamed and ostracized?" Battered men are generally ostracized under the old patriarichal notion that women are innately weak and no 'real man' could ever be 'beaten by a girl'. "That without feminism, the Duke Rape trial would have never even seen the light of day?" Interestingly enough, there was no 'Duke Rape trial', the charges were dropped in this case before it ever went to trial. Which makes me think you don't actually care much about it, you have just started throwing it around as a buzzword.DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-33273876370168548772010-11-28T19:42:40.748-06:002010-11-28T19:42:40.748-06:00If your 5-year-old is under the impression that it...If your 5-year-old is under the impression that it's okay to pinch people's butts, he should get a very stern lesson otherwise.snobographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11874569135368534339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-86968521003284234792010-11-25T17:05:41.307-06:002010-11-25T17:05:41.307-06:00@Tec & David - would 5 year olds be still char...@Tec & David - would 5 year olds be still charged with sexual harassment if modern feminism liquidated? Can you acknowledge that feminism, with its sexual harassment and "hostile workplace" hysteria, is what caused these frivolous charges against children? Can you acknowledge that without feminism, men like Andy Worhal would still be alive and battered men would not be shamed and ostracized? That without feminism, the Duke Rape trial would have never even seen the light of day? Can you at least see that much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-27382862589129001122010-11-25T15:27:57.273-06:002010-11-25T15:27:57.273-06:00This whole progressive consent thing is bullshit; ...This whole progressive consent thing is bullshit; I was brainwashed with it in high school and on my first time with a woman she wondered what the hell was wrong with me that I kept asking her permission for every little thing.<br /><br />Asking permission for the very first step of sexual contact, i.e. a kiss, for the very first time with a particular person is reasonable, but from that point on it should be up to either partner to utilize their vocal cords and say "no" or "stop" if they don't want it to go any further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-22280587037600727172010-11-25T12:44:02.579-06:002010-11-25T12:44:02.579-06:00Yohan, yes it's ridiculous to charge 5 year ol...Yohan, yes it's ridiculous to charge 5 year olds with sexual harassment. The Jezebel post is about adults harassing other adults.<br /><br />Eoghan, of course it's assault if women do it to men. No feminist here has ever suggested otherwise. Indeed, Tec, in the comment immediately before yours, states explicitly that men can be raped by women.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-51348750074271426452010-11-25T12:15:05.565-06:002010-11-25T12:15:05.565-06:00@Eoghan: It's Antioch University with the pro...@Eoghan: It's Antioch University with the progressive verbal consent.The Fatlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07291295290541355484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-14334034073120203142010-11-25T11:47:29.912-06:002010-11-25T11:47:29.912-06:00Of course not, it's assault even if it's w...Of course not, it's assault even if it's women on men. You just can't ignore the institutional power that allows men to engage in those activities nor the patriarchial gender binary norms that also make sexual assault by women on men as the men being "lucky" or "not really rape". <br /><br />Either is wrong. Both are systematic of kryiarchy.Techttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-19032474232193449392010-11-25T10:12:29.966-06:002010-11-25T10:12:29.966-06:00Tec
When women violate strangers bodies is that ma...Tec<br />When women violate strangers bodies is that male privilege too, or is it female privilege, or do we brush it under the carpet because it inconvenient?<br /><br />Also, Ive been technically sexually assaulted by both women and men and it was up to me to say yes or no, like these French women do.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-72606534416569757202010-11-25T08:46:48.626-06:002010-11-25T08:46:48.626-06:00@OP - This is very sad. It would be interesting t...@OP - This is very sad. It would be interesting to hear from actual French women vs. this douche. <br /><br />It's male privilege at work - female stranger's bodies can and are violated by men and it's just supposed to be ignored or taken as a "joke". Well, that completely ignores that <b> women are NOT public property!</b> And they shouldn't have to deal with that day after day. As for touching in general, it's not like it's limited completely to men on women. E.g. some muslim men can't be touched by women who aren't their wife due to religious reasons. <b>Plus, it's hypocritical - are there any MRAs or het men in general who would be okay with a bunch of gay guys forcing kisses on them and pinching their asses? </b> Can you imagine if <i>that</i> happened? Course, it wouldn't b/c gay men in general don't act like privileged het men assholes who think they can force their sexuality on others...oh and before you start, gay pride or even just kissing other gays in public isn't forcing their sexuality on others so STFU before you start...<br /><br />In Canada, it's an affirmative consent law i.e. only yes means yes. Also, men can be legally raped by women i.e. rape doesn't mean only when penetration occurs. And rape shield laws have an exception that it can't violate the rights of the accused i.e. if the accuser has made accusations before that were proven false, this can be admitted in court. Additionally, statutory rapes of minors have the exception of their partner to be up to 2 or 5 years older (depending on the age of the minor) i.e. though the age of consent is 16, a 13 year old can have sex with a 15 year old.Techttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-62229875063240664822010-11-25T06:04:56.810-06:002010-11-25T06:04:56.810-06:00IR: Thanks to your precious feminism, we have garb...<i>IR: Thanks to your precious feminism, we have garbage like this happening. Tell me, David, that these children would still have to register with the child molesters in the absence of modern feminism. </i><br /><br />Some links .... yahoo search... 4,5 6, 7 8, 9, 10 year old boys... sexual harassment... rape...<br /><br />4 Year Old Boy Get Suspended for Sexual Harassment<br />http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/102372/4_year_old_boy_get_suspended_for_sexual.html<br /><br /><br />5-Year-Old Boy in Maryland Accused of Sexual Harassment - Let Children Be Children<br />http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/108497/5yearold_boy_in_maryland_accused_of.html?cat=25<br /><br />School Suspends 6 Year Old For Sexual Harassment<br />http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/02/09/017/25038<br /><br />boy, 7, cleared of sexual harassment charges for kissing classmate on her cheek<br />http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-18788787.html<br /><br />Boy, 8, accused of sexual harassment, passing love notes to girl, asked to sign a notice of emergency removal form for sexual harassment http://www.zwire.com/site/16373145.html<br /><br />Rape Charges Dropped Against 9-Year-Old Arizona Boy<br />A judge has ruled him incompetent to stand trial because he's too young to understand what's going on. <br />http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/rape_charges_dropped_against_9.php<br /><br />10-year-old boy was arrested Wednesday on a rape charge - the boy is accused of having sex with his 7-year-old stepsister.<br />http://www.whiotv.com/news/15023764/detail.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-40920387771563947742010-11-25T04:56:27.412-06:002010-11-25T04:56:27.412-06:00Wasn't it Gloria Steinem that described that s...Wasn't it Gloria Steinem that described that situation as ok, and said that it was only a problem if someone persists in touching after they have been told no?<br /><br />In america, if a drunk woman brings a man home, ties him up and fucks him, he can still be a rapist. Duke University feminists introduced the idea of progressive verbal consent, "can I now touch your breast?", "can I now open your bra?" and the idea that if two people that have differing social power have consensual sex, its rape. If a man feels as free to touch a woman as a woman does a man and does so in america, he risks very serious consequences.<br /><br />The point is, using american feminist standards to judge other cultures is very arrogant. Extreme anti sex/anti male sexual attitudes, sexual attitudes that infantalise women and political sex are not the norm in Europe and why should they be?Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-18051226856435012892010-11-25T04:52:45.267-06:002010-11-25T04:52:45.267-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-41603068927709908032010-11-25T00:20:02.873-06:002010-11-25T00:20:02.873-06:00"I'm not suggesting that a woman have sex..."I'm not suggesting that a woman have sex with someone she doesn't want to, but I'm hoping we can start having more guilt-free sex by any means necessary. If we turn the volume down on consent, perhaps we'll get closer to this kind of liberation."<br />David's malicious tactics are laid out for anyone who reads the piece in its entirety. "Groping" brings to mind excessive fondling after she says "no." He conveniently overlooks (or underlooks - eye disease?) many statements which are not in line with his radical views.<br />"Parisian women <b>deny or accept</b> these advances with a decisiveness many American women lack."<br />I get touched by women sometimes in clubs. I don't mind it - if I'm interested, I'll make a joke. If I'm not, I'm not and I politely decline by either ignoring it or with negative body language. I'm an adult, I can move on - that's what adults do. They don't scream Bloody Mary about a simple gesture. However, simply touching a woman as a joke can get you on the sex offender registry.<br />Thanks to your precious feminism, we have garbage like <a href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2007/07/22/Teens-facing-sex-charges-for-butt-slaps/UPI-34711185144835/" rel="nofollow">this</a> happening. Tell me, David, that these children would still have to register with the child molesters in the absence of modern feminism. Feminism has become a malicious, bloated tumor now. It might have served some benign purpose a long time ago, but now it must be isolated and excised from mainstream society.<br />Fun fact: The prosecutor was <a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/prosecutor_of_buttswatting_boy.html" rel="nofollow">arrested for domestic assault against her husband</a>. It doesn't get much better than this - well, except for the kids and her husband she wanted to sacrifice to make a statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-41074639866213239302010-11-24T22:40:00.109-06:002010-11-24T22:40:00.109-06:00LMAO. Thank you!LMAO. Thank you!Valeriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16857143180677623061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-12951121477531437102010-11-24T21:10:48.136-06:002010-11-24T21:10:48.136-06:00@David,
I like the changes.@David, <br /><br />I like the changes.Christine WEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16655038857649533310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-47423403924321238842010-11-24T20:18:53.713-06:002010-11-24T20:18:53.713-06:00lol...the "character" in the pic along w...lol...the "character" in the pic along with the caption is just hilariously fitting to the content of this piece.Christine WEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16655038857649533310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-16498640592217591132010-11-24T18:56:05.598-06:002010-11-24T18:56:05.598-06:00Leave Christopher Walken out of this.Leave Christopher Walken out of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com