tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post4169688357845970586..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: Douchebag Asst. Attorney General who harassed gay student gets the bootAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-49703741821656700792010-11-11T19:55:01.595-06:002010-11-11T19:55:01.595-06:00"Oh, and yes, it's such a female privileg..."Oh, and yes, it's such a female privilege not being able to go out after dark because I might get raped and if I was it would be my fault for going outside. And if I got raped in my house, it would be my fault because I let him in. Or I didn't have enough locks on my doors or bars on my windows. Shall I go on?"<br />Where does anyone claim that?<br />One more thing: I'm more likely to be assaulted in the dark and three times more likely to be murdered - because I'm a man. Yet you've only been blabbering about how "women are treated so badly." I don't care about your bitter paranoia about rapists clawing at your door. I'm the one more likely to be murdered here, and you don't even care. Now if a woman gets killed - EEEK! It was a hate crime! But the three men being slaughtered for every one woman, forget 'em. Saving men's lives isn't really our thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-40057822000318522132010-11-11T19:34:19.268-06:002010-11-11T19:34:19.268-06:00Incidentally, if you see what look like typographi...Incidentally, if you see what look like typographical errors in the above comment, that is because Blogger ate my pseudo-HTML tags. It's not due to any idiocy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-53355301414592887822010-11-11T19:32:13.436-06:002010-11-11T19:32:13.436-06:00By the way, the grammatically correct, i.e. non-mo...By the way, the grammatically correct, i.e. non-moron way to type that sentence is " Oh yes, False Rape Society is a really unbiased source. ". "Unbias" isn't even a word, and if it was then it would be a noun, not an adjective. Do consider taking remedial English classes, you moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-74113927964213497922010-11-11T19:27:06.464-06:002010-11-11T19:27:06.464-06:00"Oh yes, False Rape Society is a really unbia..."Oh yes, False Rape Society is a really unbias source. (sarcasm)"<br /><br />Each case links to other, independent sources for documentation, but thanks for proving that you never even bothered reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-66508445082385518302010-11-11T19:19:09.210-06:002010-11-11T19:19:09.210-06:00@Cold
Oh yes, False Rape Society is a really unbi...@Cold<br /><br />Oh yes, False Rape Society is a really unbias source. (sarcasm) <br /><br />That false rape allegations are common has been debunked several times, by several people. <br /><br />"Is a package of hyperbole, paranoia, conspiracy theory and lies, thats not how reality is. "<br /><br />Hi Pot, meet kettle. <br /><br />"And you are quite aware that I never said that feminism was racism against blacks, I said that feminism runs the same rape hysteria political tactics as progressives did in the last century"<br /><br />Actually you did, twice:<br /><br />"Take back the night is todays equivalent of politically constructed, progressive era black rapist hysteria."<br /><br />"Black rapist hysteria, progressives took the actions of a minority and used them to create hysteria and hatred against a whole group. "<br /><br />And you've made comments previously about feminism being about white women.<br /><br />I don't understand how rape hysteria = racism is not inherently racist itself because:<br />(1) it denies women of colour are raped<br />(2) it assumes that whites can't be rapists<br /><br />Also, it's very ironic to term it "hysteria" given how Freud linked hysteria to actual childhood sexual abuse and rape:<br />"1. Freud's procedure here, as elsewhere, is empirical. In this instance his conclusions are drawn from 18 case studies, all of which, he claims, bear out without exception his general thesis. Of these 18 cases, 6 are male, 12 are female.<br /><br />2. Freud searches in these 18 cases for a single cause that all of them have in common: this would be their uniform basis and would hence point to the general aetiology of hysteria. <b>What is this shared element? A traumatic experience in childhood that is uniformly of a SEXUAL nature. </b><br />...<br />B. Freud's Basic Conclusions<br /><br />1. A sexual event experienced during infancy or childhood is the sole origin of hysterical symptoms. Thus, the aetiology of hysteria is situational, not physiological or genetic.<br /><br />a. Freud goes so far as to generalize childhood sexual abuse as the origin of all neuropathologies; it is, as he says, the "caput Nil" (the source of the Nile) for all the psychopathologies of adulthood.<br /><br />b. These sexual experiences can include innocent things like stimulation of the genitals during wiping, diapering, hygiene, etc., or can be actual instances of coitus-like acts of seduction during childhood.<br /><br />2. Freud delineates 3 groups of hysterics based on the source of this sexual stimulation:<br /><br />a.<b> Assaults by adults: mostly practiced on women by men (fathers, uncles, brothers, etc.) where there is no consent. That is, rape or other forced sexual activities. </b><br /><br />b. Love relationships between an adult and a child; these are usually of a longer duration and are the manifestation of deeper emotional and affective bonds. Here genuine feelings of "love" are at work.<br /><br />c. Relationships between 2 children, usually brother and sister, whereby this situation presumes that one of the children has already been initiated into sexual activities by an adult (presumes "seduction" of one of the children previously)."<br />http://courses.washington.edu/freudlit/Hysteria.Notes.htmlTechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-21946387403859712512010-11-11T17:14:10.003-06:002010-11-11T17:14:10.003-06:00Pam
Id argue that the moral superiority of women ...Pam<br /><br />Id argue that the moral superiority of women has likely always been propagated by women. Ive heard feminists theorizing that idea where men would put their coats in mud so that a "lady" could walk on them and also the idea that men would move the crude, solid oak furniture and doors for women was a clever plot to deny agency to women, it was much more likely that privileged women instigated these things, for their own benefit, IMO. I view AA and the lack of women in dirty jobs as the modern equivalents of of opening the solid oak door in crude hinges and placing a coat down in the mud.<br /><br />Even if it was men that instigated the female moral superiority myth, feminism is the main propagator, defender and exploiter of it today.<br /><br />As for father at the rightful head of the table, that must be some Christian type commentary, most mens rights people wouldn't bother with nonsense like that, it would be hypocritical because most object to the media maneuvering women into the role of main decision maker/consumer and men cast as hen pecked work horses.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-78028659368100618692010-11-11T13:09:08.528-06:002010-11-11T13:09:08.528-06:00They weren't "advancing" biological ...They weren't "advancing" biological determinism, it was apparent to Dworkin that some feminists, when making comments in a women's forum, were venting thoughts that smacked of biological determinism, and that is a concept to which she is clearly opposed. <br /><br />"although the main feminist supremacist argument is based in the illusion of moral superiority"<br /><br />That illusion having first been propagated by men...very influential men...to justify their superiority over not only all women but some other men and to institute it in law and tradition. Where was the law when men were advancing biological determinism to justify, amongst other things, supremacy over females? Does that make it right when women do the same to justify <i>their</i> superiority? No, of course it doesn't, and Dworkin chastised feminists who vented in such a manner, pointing out that their "wrongs" were no better than men's "wrongs". I guess that qualifies as hate speech.<br /><br />I see it still at some MRA forums, more often than not in Father's Rights forums or topics...the Father as rightful head of and authority over the family (which includes the wife who has no rightful authority in the family). Of course that pretty much denies the existence of same-sex couples, unless they decide upon the "gender role" that each of them takes. So much for egalitarian or humanistic.<br /><br />"The law" isn't present at all online or offline forums, meeting, events, etc. when anyone is advancing anything.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789436253418072535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-67084629148043771282010-11-11T11:08:44.533-06:002010-11-11T11:08:44.533-06:00And where is the law when feminists are advancing ...And where is the law when feminists are advancing biological determinism to justify supremacy over males? That meme, along with Dworkin and McKinnons hate took root in mainstream feminist thought although the main feminist supremacist argument is based in the illusion of moral superiority.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-46981778171378498872010-11-11T10:42:57.141-06:002010-11-11T10:42:57.141-06:00"where is the law when the work or McKinnon a..."where is the law when the work or McKinnon and Dworkin is being promoted to young impressionable minds?"<br /><br />Yes, especially when Dworkin spoke out about and confronted other feminists who were endorsing and promoting such things as biological determinism to justify female superiority over males:<br /><a href="http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIID.html" rel="nofollow">Biological Superiority: The World's Most Dangerous and Deadly Idea</a>Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789436253418072535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-60102855722940685122010-11-11T10:20:16.139-06:002010-11-11T10:20:16.139-06:00"What you've described are either (1) com..."What you've described are either (1) complete BS or (2) products of patriarchy. Which guess what? Feminism is against."<br /><br />Well let's see, the false accusation point is most certainly not BS because <a href="http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">there are mountains of examples to prove it is true</a>, so therefore, if you're not full of shit, then it has to be "(2) products of patriarchy. Which guess what? Feminism is against." Problem is, I don't see feminists doing ANYTHING do fix the problem of false rape accusations, in fact <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/25/crispin-blunt-rape-charge-anonymity" rel="nofollow">I see them doing the opposite</a>.<br /><br />"and yes, it's such a female privilege not being able to go out after dark because I might get raped and if I was it would be my fault for going outside. And if I got raped in my house, it would be my fault because I let him in. Or I didn't have enough locks on my doors or bars on my windows."<br /><br />THAT is bullshit unless you can provide examples of courts making such rulings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-72943926017171273092010-11-11T10:13:19.579-06:002010-11-11T10:13:19.579-06:00Tec,
What you said is what you said, but at least...Tec,<br /><br />What you said is what you said, but at least your ex post facto excuse is somewhat plausible, unlike David's completely unbelievable "That one line wasn't my POV even though the rest of the post was all my POV and you're just too dumb to notice the unmarked POV shift* excuse.<br /><br />* Paraphrasing, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-54743569093432446022010-11-11T09:48:26.352-06:002010-11-11T09:48:26.352-06:00Tec
You dont debunk anything, its all personal at...Tec<br /><br />You dont debunk anything, its all personal attacks and sarcasm, thats not debunking thats female teen relational violence.<br /><br />And you are quite aware that I never said that feminism was racism against blacks, I said that feminism runs the same rape hysteria political tactics as progressives did in the last century, its the exact same tactic, complete with rallies just targeting all men rather than black men specifically.<br /><br />Can you list the ways in which women are treated like scum for us please?<br /><br />And this<br /><br />"h, and yes, it's such a female privilege not being able to go out after dark because I might get raped and if I was it would be my fault for going outside. And if I got raped in my house, it would be my fault because I let him in. Or I didn't have enough locks on my doors or bars on my windows. Shall I go on? I could write a fucking book on the subject of male privilege and sexism, but others have already. But oh I'm sooo privileged, clearly".<br /><br />Is a package of hyperbole, paranoia, conspiracy theory and lies, thats not how reality is.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-84544098750824330492010-11-11T09:14:59.809-06:002010-11-11T09:14:59.809-06:00@Cold - oh yes, pointing out Eoghan claims to be a...@Cold - oh yes, pointing out Eoghan claims to be a member of marginalized group and his constant meme that feminism = racism against blacks is racist. Moron. I was pointing out he's sounding like a racist and telling him to get off his BS straight that feminism/=white women. <br /><br />@IR - yes, hate crimes are different than other crimes. Go learn something.<br /><br />Oh men are so underprivileged. (sarcasm) What you've described are either (1) complete BS or (2) products of patriarchy. Which guess what? Feminism is against. Oh, and yes, it's such a female privilege not being able to go out after dark because I might get raped and if I was it would be my fault for going outside. And if I got raped in my house, it would be my fault because I let him in. Or I didn't have enough locks on my doors or bars on my windows. Shall I go on? I could write a fucking book on the subject of male privilege and sexism, but others have already. But oh I'm sooo privileged, clearly.<br /><br />@Eoghan - you have no idea what you're talking about. As I said before, you rely on easily debunked What Feminists Believe (TM) memes to defend your points. The problem is you don't know what feminists believe at all, and it's rather futile to continue arguing with someone who doesn't know the subject they're supposedly opposed to.Techttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-63174070524085692062010-11-11T06:12:59.420-06:002010-11-11T06:12:59.420-06:00As for missing the point about the post.
This stu...As for missing the point about the post.<br /><br />This student was well protected, the law moved against this idiot and a clear message was sent.<br /><br />It begs the question, where is the law when feminists are running similar and much more common campaigns, where is the law when the work or McKinnon and Dworkin is being promoted to young impressionable minds?Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-7379697563619000182010-11-11T05:24:45.027-06:002010-11-11T05:24:45.027-06:00DarkSideCat
Equal rights for victims doesn't ...DarkSideCat<br /><br />Equal rights for victims doesn't minimize rape of women, making rape of women a political and money raising platform and the be all and end all of violent crime minimizes the experiences of other victims, they become othered. As well as that, telling impressionable young women lies about the nature of rape (that its political and gendered) and that that live in a "rape culture" is detrimental to their mental health and perception of reality. <br /><br />Just to add more to by response to Tec's ridiculous assertion that "we live is a society that treats women like scum".<br /><br />Women receive legal privileged and shorter prison term for equal crimes, men do pretty much all the dangerous, dirty and lower order jobs and ever measurable class of extreme hardship is dominated by men, homelessness for example.<br /><br />Tec, you like many young feminist behave like a child that thinks "life is sooo unfair" when every little thing doesn't go their own way. If you think women are treated like scum in this society, and women are more equal in most measurable well being classes, how would you describe the treatment of a boys and men?Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-53681346907379324602010-11-11T03:03:57.646-06:002010-11-11T03:03:57.646-06:00"I had originally guessed, based on your writ..."I had originally guessed, based on your writing, you might be black"<br /><br />I think it's pretty clear who is the racist here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-2249486008675043902010-11-11T02:35:25.605-06:002010-11-11T02:35:25.605-06:00We dont live in a rape culture, thats just radical...We dont live in a rape culture, thats just radical feminist nonsense. Men are as prone to sexual violence as men and women make up significant portion of the sexual predators outside the prison system.<br /><br />"Women treated like scum" !!!!<br /><br />So women, who are paid more, receive most of the resources in education, most of the degrees, spend x5 more of the family budget on themselves than their partners, have most of the management jobs, control 60% of the wealth and 80% of the spending, monopolize the victim resources despite being the safest group in society, wear better clothes and shoes than men, and have lives so much easier than men that they live 8 years longer, are treated like scum. It makes me wonder what it would take for you to believe that women are being treated well. <br /><br />You are delusional and irrational Tec.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-12126596564848959702010-11-11T02:26:24.718-06:002010-11-11T02:26:24.718-06:00"And if you're instead refering to expect..."And if you're instead refering to expecting men to yield some male privilege, well, guilty as charged."<br /><br />Exactly what privileges do men have left to yield? The privilege of having to worry about whether any woman with whom they are alone will falsely accuse them of rape? The privilege of being insulted if they refuse to pay for more than their half of a date? The privilege of being passed over for a job or promotion because employers want to meet quotas? The privilege of having no legal recourse for unwanted paternity, <a href="http://www.supportguidelines.com/articles/art199903.html" rel="nofollow">even when it is the result of rape</a>? The privilege of dying earlier? Inquiring minds want to know.<br /><br />Inquiring minds want to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-43974817222734003912010-11-11T02:15:34.652-06:002010-11-11T02:15:34.652-06:00"We live in a society that treats women like ..."We live in a society that treats women like scum."<br /><br />Oh, so THAT'S why women only kill themselves 25% as often as men. I guess being "treat[ed] like scum" does an amazing job of enhancing one's will to live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-39052319331168134092010-11-10T23:40:36.321-06:002010-11-10T23:40:36.321-06:00@Tec
More men are killed than women. How is killin...@Tec<br />More men are killed than women. How is killing men morally better than killing women? I know you assume that every woman who is struck down becomes a hate crime and yam-yam-yam, but how does that hold a candle to the fact that 3 men are murdered for every 1 woman, yet all of your chatter has been about women?<br />"Men need to give up their privilege, men need to do this and that and serve women better. Oh, men are more likely to be murdered? Well, it's okay to kill men because it's not out of hate somehow."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-88485204002838441252010-11-10T22:35:45.088-06:002010-11-10T22:35:45.088-06:00@IR
"but you have been silent as a church mou...@IR<br />"but you have been silent as a church mouse about violence against men. You've fixated on the smallest aspect of violence, and only because it affects you. And it's men who need to change - men exclusively"<br /><br />Um no. For one, I'm certainly not a quiet church mouse. <br /><br />Secondly, men on men violence isn't usually a hate crime e.g. one man kills a man for money vs. man killing a man for being black. They're kinda apples and oranges eh?<br /><br />Would you accuse me of trivializing murder if I focused on the race aspect of the latter? Um, hopefully not.<br /><br />No, it is you who are trivializing. We live in a society that treats women like scum. Treats children like scum. Treats elderly like scum. Treats LGBTQ persons like scum. Treats disabled like scum. And that's all part of kyriarchy. Focusing on the huge spectrum that encompasses rape jokes to murderous hate crime isn't trivializing, it's the opposite: it's highlighting. <br /><br /><b>But assuming I'm <i>not</i> also concerned about other issues because they don't affect me is ludicrous and completely unsubtantiated. </b> I don't have to be gay to care about homophobia. I don't have to be disabled to care about the disabled and the barriers they face. <b>It's categorically misrepresentative of me and rather self-entitled of yourself to assume <i>you</i> know what I care about and don't care about.</b> <br /><br />Also, I've already pointed out the big flaw in the concept "men should change" at Eoghan: it's part of rape culture. They're both wrong. <br /><br />And if you're instead refering to expecting men to yield some male privilege, well, guilty as charged. <br /><br />@Cat - QFTTechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-61208687472639403192010-11-10T21:48:22.865-06:002010-11-10T21:48:22.865-06:00@Eoghan
"Black rapist hysteria, progressives ...@Eoghan<br />"Black rapist hysteria, progressives took the actions of a minority and used them to create hysteria and hatred against a whole group. <br /><br />Its the very same tactic that feminism uses targeting all men instead of just black men."<br /><br />Again, making all men rapists is the flip side of victim-blaming: if women can instigate rape through what they wear, being there, etc. then it simultaneously sets men up as being insatiable without impulse control and thus incapable of controlling themselves. Both are untrue and wrong. They're both steeped in rape culture and overall, patriarchy.<br /><br />It's not about race, much as you'd like to phrase it as so. I have no idea where you're getting that Take Back the Nights are targeted at blacks; it makes no sense: it's targeted at rapists and violent criminals. Are you saying that all black men are inherently the targets? Because that's what it sounds a lot like which is pretty fucked up racist shit about racial stereotyping. <br /><br />And guess what? <b>Women of colour are raped. They are often raped. </b> Gee, it's almost as if the 2-for-1 combo of being a woman and a non-white makes 'em a 2x easily victimized group, and thus easily dismissed by white, privileged men. Hell, in Canada, First Nations women are the most common victims of human sex trafficking not to mention the rampant CSA of boys and girls experienced at residential schools. <b> Attributing "Take Back the Nights" as racist sentiments to target black men trivializes the abuse and victimization of all women, but especially so women of colour. </b> And it fucking pisses me off royally. <br /> <br />I had originally guessed, based on your writing, you might be black and by your name, Scottish. I suggest you try googling "third wave feminism" because feminism isn't just white privileged women as you would like to paint it. <br /><br /><b>Again, try thinking on your own before parroting what you heard on False Rape Society and your other MRA blogs. </b>Techttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707524162506465881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-5677238710655823322010-11-10T21:26:28.574-06:002010-11-10T21:26:28.574-06:00Okay, I can't be the only one who finds it hil...Okay, I can't be the only one who finds it hilariously ironic that the MRAs are bitching about lack of discussion about violence against men in order to derail David's post about just that. This post is about the stalking and harassment of a male victim. For people who claim to care so much about lack of discussion about violence or crimes with male victims, they sure don't like to talke about violence or crimes with male victims.<br /><br />In other irony news, Eoghan's comments minimizing rape and violence with female perpertrators "factoring in the nature of prison rapes, teeth knocked out, gang rapes and so on... it would seem that men suffer the more violent end of rape."DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-44893364637951846292010-11-10T21:10:33.223-06:002010-11-10T21:10:33.223-06:00@Tec
Men are killed for being men all of the time....@Tec<br />Men are killed for being men all of the time. Women are killed for being women occasionally. Men get by just fine without candlelight vigils and "take back the night rallies," all while bearing the greater brunt of the violence.<br />Most crimes we prosecute are committed by men, but they're also against other men. Men hate each other a lot more than they hate women, but you have been silent as a church mouse about violence against men. You've fixated on the smallest aspect of violence, and only because it affects you. And it's men who need to change - men exclusively, not the government which marginalizes and emasculates them, not the single mothers who rob their children of a father out of spite, not the law enforcement which arrests male victims of domestic assault. No, of course not, masculinity is evil, men hate women, only men need to change. Those men who get killed and slaughtered - forget 'em. They're just a bunch of men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-18105369533108387132010-11-10T19:17:27.408-06:002010-11-10T19:17:27.408-06:00Some jews were involved in the crash that caused t...Some jews were involved in the crash that caused the great depression, that didnt justify rallies against all jews in germany.<br /><br />Some gay men have pedophile tendencies, that doesnt mean that all gay men are pedophiles.<br /><br />Some black men did rape white women, that doesn't justify KKK rallies against black men.<br /><br />And so on, like feminism these movements rely on taking an extreme example and convince the gullible that its the norm for that group.<br />Feminism makes millions out of creating this illusion and prejudice.Eoghanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03193152119847171078noreply@blogger.com