tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post2479644721260360244..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: Gunwitch UpdateAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-84942072857767076662011-04-08T15:35:19.070-05:002011-04-08T15:35:19.070-05:00A common theme in these comments seem to be that m...A common theme in these comments seem to be that men and women are the same, interact with the world in the same way, experience the world in the same way. <br /><br />Unfortunately, I just don't believe this to be the case. Men do not fend off sexual advances by women nearly as often as women fend off men's. I don't know of any men who grow up believing that sexual assault is part of the norm. I know of women who do. I'm not saying that sexual assault doesn't happen to men. I'm not saying women aren't capable of being violent toward men. I'm arguing that men and women experience and interact with our society in different ways. <br /><br />The idea that society gives everyone a fair shake is inherently flawed, as evidenced by the very arguments presented by many men's rights groups. One might argue that the victim escalated the level of violence by pulling out a knife, but for many women, repeated aggressive sexual advances is seen as a serious threat of rape while few men would see it that way. Rather than this ridiculous argument of who has it worse, who deserves what, perhaps it'd be more worthwhile to focus on what causes legitimate fear in many women such as things like rejecting sexual advances could result in getting shot in the face.clhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00227699349849828151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-7432639298437909892011-01-17T01:00:07.793-06:002011-01-17T01:00:07.793-06:00David, there is a vast difference in professional ...David, there is a vast difference in professional quality and acumen between a lawyer who is paid through a national government grant vs. a local public defender. If you're a female perpetrator, you get a free lawyer whose time is freer than that of a PD. That service is not available to male defendants in DV cases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-36248673742194344382011-01-17T00:21:17.886-06:002011-01-17T00:21:17.886-06:00Isn't everyone, male or female, regardless of ...Isn't everyone, male or female, regardless of the charges, entitled to legal representation at govt. expense in criminal cases?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-44755787686188169412011-01-16T22:09:18.006-06:002011-01-16T22:09:18.006-06:00Now that I think of it, David, thanks to Joe Biden...Now that I think of it, David, thanks to Joe Biden female perpetrators who are quite properly criminally charged are entitled to free legal representation under the Violence Against Women Act. The purpose of such legal representation, in a criminal case, is to exonerate the female perpetrator -- all at government expense. The pretext that is used to justify this injustice is that the female perpetrator was somehow a battered woman.<br /><br />This is the power of perceived weakness, and female perpetrators of partner violence have it. Thanks, feminists, for all that you've done in the name of domestic violence -- exacerbating it, that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-65981657771846597592011-01-16T19:22:10.336-06:002011-01-16T19:22:10.336-06:00David Futrelle wrote:
"Yes, both men and wom...David Futrelle wrote:<br /><br /><i>"Yes, both men and women who commit violent crimes should be locked up.<br /><br />It's goofy that you would assume people here would think otherwise."</i><br /><br />Under primary aggressor laws, which were put in place by feminists, even if two parties are violent against each other, and even if one party was violent in self defense and didn't start the violence, only one of the two gets arrested, typically the man. That's a feminist policy, and it gives a pass to female perpetrators. The man goes to jail, probably is served with a restraining order and thus prohibited from returning home and seeing his kids or collecting his belongings. The woman doesn't go to jail, and gets sole control over the family home, even if she started the violence, even if she injured her husband, and even if her kids watched her do it. This is a feminist policy; David Futrelle is a feminist. David Futrelle's supporters are feminists.<br /><br />To suggest that feminists would promote impunity for female perpetrators is actually not so goofy after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-7906921660963083502011-01-16T16:48:33.437-06:002011-01-16T16:48:33.437-06:00I must admit I am shocked to read what some people...I must admit I am shocked to read what some people have to say about the incident. I know first hand what happened. I am the mother of the victim. The act that was perpetrated against my daughter is beyond belief. There is information that is spreading that is incorrect. My daughter was sitting down when this coward walked up and shot her in the face at point blank range, because she repeatedly refused his sexual advances. The trajectory of the bullet has proven this already. <br />Why do some men believe that they have the right to invade others personal space for their own desire's? Would it be alright for someone to invade yours for their desires. NO it is never alright. This evil, want to be bad ass is nothing more than a COWARD. And for the men that follow this worthless scum bag what is lacking in you that you can look at this man and think he truly has the moves to get women. Men if you want to truly know how to bed a women, get advice from a woman that you trust. I promise that will be advice that will help you score. Unfortunately, men that have this idea about sex will only experience the first level of sexual satisfaction, the physical aspect. I feel sorry that you men will never experience the second and third level. By the way, why do you need a women to ejaculate, for that is all that you are doing when you have no other connection to the woman you are screwing.<br />I am also confused as to the position of some people here. I have 2 girls and 2 boys it is never alright for either sex to act aggressive toward anyone. I allow both genders their emotions and feelings. Women and men are both wonderful creatures. Maybe if we would back up a moment and reflect on the inner part of ourselves, we would realize that both genders have wonderful, amazing qualities to offer this world.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872620390563357033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-53001392921765215872011-01-14T02:47:02.679-06:002011-01-14T02:47:02.679-06:00Yes, both men and women who commit violent crimes ...Yes, both men and women who commit violent crimes should be locked up. <br /><br />It's goofy that you would assume people here would think otherwise.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-72754850598118409192011-01-14T02:10:06.915-06:002011-01-14T02:10:06.915-06:00Raul Groom said...
Violent men SHOULD be locked u...<i>Raul Groom said... <br />Violent men SHOULD be locked up because they are extremely dangerous. </i><br /><br />What about violent women? Should they also be locked up because they are extremely dangerous?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-85347395434177131852011-01-13T14:03:49.345-06:002011-01-13T14:03:49.345-06:00"That by perhaps incarcerating a large percen..."That by perhaps incarcerating a large percentage of our men that we may be perpetuating the cycles of violence?"<br /><br />This is a really good point, but it has nothing to do with anything MRA's are ever on about. Violent men SHOULD be locked up because they are extremely dangerous. <br /><br />Nonviolent men shouldn't be locked up. Unless they use drugs because drugs are bad. M'kay?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13829102073305209917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-31761728389591592692011-01-12T21:39:25.471-06:002011-01-12T21:39:25.471-06:00Here are some more examples of PUAs having sensibl...Here are some <a href="http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=9&boardid=2&read=107180&fid=34" rel="nofollow">more examples</a> of PUAs having sensible responses:<br /><br />----<br />Wow this is horrible news.<br /><br />Lets all hope the girl recovers.<br />----<br /><br />and<br /><br />----<br />Dear Gunbitch - you are a fucktard. You look like a retard. There is no way you have gotten anything resembling pussy in a long long time. That is why women now pull knives on you, and you blast them in the face with your hammerless 357, which you can't even figure out how to properly load with a consistent caliber of ammunition.<br /><br />You have also threatened lots of people, on many forums, with veiled threats of violence. To read the story, and to see your fugly mugshot and video, takes you from PUA GURU to PUA ZERO.<br /><br />Sociopathic Assfucker.<br />----<br /><br />Note that many people in the community weren't cool with Gunwitch and considered him messed up before he pulled his stunt.<br /><br />Another excellent response:<br /><br />----<br />I can't help but add that the jeering and joking that is going on outside this forum is beyond childish.<br /><br />The flippancy in which some certain pu guru hero's have treated the subject of a girl getting shot in the face and the way they are joking about it quite frankly disgusts me.<br />----<br /><br />If anyone is still riding the "PUAs condone Gunwitch" hype train, I think it's time to get off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-90743997069628347542011-01-12T10:59:24.956-06:002011-01-12T10:59:24.956-06:00@ Biscuit Queen/
comment January 11, 2011 11:51 AM...@ Biscuit Queen/<br />comment January 11, 2011 11:51 AM <br /><br /><br />Thank you for your excellent posting <br /><br />YohanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-66465259761365379172011-01-11T22:44:33.440-06:002011-01-11T22:44:33.440-06:00See I wonder sometimes if men around here just wan...See I wonder sometimes if men around here just want to know about us ladies and try to trick us abusively into defending ourselves with a little autobiographical sketch. Maybe I'll do a blog on how I ran into feminism. It's kind of neat that our profiles are attached to our comments. <br /><br />Whitman you've done nothing but personally attack me on here. You're the one that says you hate me, I never said I hated anyone. If I "drip" anything from my posts then you definitely flood the board with your hate. <br /><br />I don't need to sit here and tell misogynists over and over that I love men and they love me. It does not matter. Women have every right to be angry and not to give into this push to pretend that everything flows equal and men need shelters and women keep them out and all this crap. <br /><br />I owe you nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-39982527447257611802011-01-11T22:44:06.920-06:002011-01-11T22:44:06.920-06:00Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought m...Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought men were as abusive and horrible as the MRAs that post here, listen up I WOULD KILL MYSELF, did you hear that loud and clear? And no I am not kidding. I'm getting married soon, there will be patriarchy in our home Side note: Steinem said it doesn't work in the home, and I LOLED when she said that but she's one of my heroes I love the woman. I also don't feel the need to dole out all the nuances of where I am on feminist theory compared to others to people who hate feminists for no reason and are abusive. Men tend to like me, and we all have our different dynamics. As I have gotten older I have learned to stay away from abusive men, I seem to be a magnet for them for numerous reasons but I'm totally out of that now, even though I still attract them, and actually they are worse with me now that I have stronger boundaries. What happens to me does not happen to all women. You have to learn yourself. So now I've figured out how to be around great people and I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-33224271360416128102011-01-11T22:42:43.561-06:002011-01-11T22:42:43.561-06:00Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought m...Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought men were as abusive and horrible as the MRAs that post here, listen up I WOULD KILL MYSELF, did you hear that loud and clear? And no I am not kidding. I'm getting married soon, there will be patriarchy in our home Side note: Steinem said it doesn't work in the home, and I LOLED when she said that but she's one of my heroes I love the woman. I also don't feel the need to dole out all the nuances of where I am on feminist theory compared to others to people who hate feminists for no reason and are abusive. Men tend to like me, and we all have our different dynamics. As I have gotten older I have learned to stay away from abusive men, I seem to be a magnet for them for numerous reasons but I'm totally out of that now, even though I still attract them, and actually they are worse with me now that I have stronger boundaries. What happens to me does not happen to all women. You have to learn yourself. So now I've figured out how to be around great people and I am. <br /><br />See I wonder sometimes if men around here just want to know about us ladies and try to trick us abusively into defending ourselves with a little autobiographical sketch. Maybe I'll do a blog on how I ran into feminism. It's kind of neat that our profiles are attached to our comments. <br /><br />Whitman you've done nothing but personally attack me on here. You're the one that says you hate me, I never said I hated anyone. If I "drip" anything from my posts then you definitely flood the board with your hate. <br /><br />I don't need to sit here and tell misogynists over and over that I love men and they love me. It does not matter. Women have every right to be angry and not to give into this push to pretend that everything flows equal and men need shelters and women keep them out and all this crap. I owe you nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-23559553053992824072011-01-11T22:40:52.332-06:002011-01-11T22:40:52.332-06:00Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought m...Why are you talking about me, here? If I thought men were as abusive and horrible as the MRAs that post here, listen up I WOULD KILL MYSELF, did you hear that loud and clear? And no I am not kidding. I'm getting married soon, there will be patriarchy in our home Side note: Steinem said it doesn't work in the home, and I LOLED when she said that but she's one of my heroes I love the woman. I also don't feel the need to dole out all the nuances of where I am on feminist theory compared to others to people who hate feminists for no reason and are abusive. Men tend to like me, and we all have our different dynamics. As I have gotten older I have learned to stay away from abusive men, I seem to be a magnet for them for numerous reasons but I'm totally out of that now, even though I still attract them, and actually they are worse with me now that I have stronger boundaries. What happens to me does not happen to all women. You have to learn yourself. So now I've figured out how to be around great people and I am. <br /><br />See I wonder sometimes if men around here just want to know about us ladies and try to trick us abusively into defending ourselves with a little autobiographical sketch. Maybe I'll do a blog on how I ran into feminism. It's kind of neat that our profiles are attached to our comments. <br /><br />Whitman you've done nothing but personally attack me on here. You're the one that says you hate me, I never said I hated anyone. If I "drip" anything from my posts then you definitely flood the board with your hate. <br /><br />I don't need to sit here and tell misogynists over and over that I love men and they love me. It does not matter. Women have every right to be angry and not to give into this push to pretend that everything flows equal and men need shelters and women keep them out and all this crap. <br /><br />I owe you nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-36787147385876483292011-01-11T12:13:19.806-06:002011-01-11T12:13:19.806-06:00Dr. Deezee,
Booboonation is THAT deluded. Her ha...Dr. Deezee,<br /><br />Booboonation is THAT deluded. Her hate and bigotry effectively drip from her typed posts. The venom and vitriol are almost laughable. I would laugh, but so many people feel this way and are shaping policy.<br /><br />Anyone who claims to be for equality yet supports VAWA are bigots and hypocrites!Whitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882605740146461384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-88920110298910602382011-01-11T11:56:25.483-06:002011-01-11T11:56:25.483-06:00Dr Deezee has a good point. Women have little empa...Dr Deezee has a good point. Women have little empathy for violence against men. Society has little empathy for violence against men. Men make up the vast majority of victims of assault and murder, yet we only care about violence against women. It is feminists and society which have deemed women more important.<br /><br />If the reason is men commit more violence, then why do we not have a "Violence By Men ACT" as opposed to VAWA? Is it about the victims or the perps? It seems to be awfully convenient how the focus changes depending on what point feminists want to make. <br /><br />Did it occur to anyone that by addressing violence against men that less boys would be raised in violence and less men would be violent? That by perhaps incarcerating a large percentage of our men that we may be perpetuating the cycles of violence?Jen Kuhnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13565268659134199344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-28048285928014044602011-01-11T11:51:05.837-06:002011-01-11T11:51:05.837-06:00You posted this on your website, which is formed t...You posted this on your website, which is formed to discredit the men's rights movement. Your every post is designed to paint all MRAs with the brush of fanatic, to generalize fringe behavior as normal. You did not have to say you think this is indicative of all MRA's, it is written all over your metaphorical face. <br /><br />If I cannot underestimate misogyny, then please do not underestimate misandry. I have spend just shy of 40 years being a woman in the US. I have faced a couple of situations where I dealt with men who had a chip on their shoulder, but by and far once I was able to prove I was equally as capable (such as loading my own 100 lb bags of pig feed into my truck) the men lost the chip. I entered college in a male dominated field and had no issues with misogyny. I can tell you as an average white woman in the US, misogyny is not nearly as present as misandry. <br /><br />Since I have taken up the mantle of men's issues I have been called names, been told I hated myself, been called a traitor. I have been stalked, laughed at, and threatened. And I am not even a man! Misandry is all the more insidious because it is adamently denied. Men are seen as weak and pathetic for having needs or being vulnerable, then seen as whiny for trying to get those needs met. They are told to suck it up and be a man when they are hurt or otherwise mistreated, and then told to put their own needs aside and show empathy towards people simply because they are women.Jen Kuhnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13565268659134199344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-47606807582828707632011-01-11T02:59:21.796-06:002011-01-11T02:59:21.796-06:00Dave, I was using your comment to address several ...Dave, I was using your comment to address several of your commenters who have been extrapolating this incident as applying to all MRAs.<br /><br />As for your comment that there are SOME MRAs who either support or don't give a a fuck about other kinds of violence against women, I'm sure there's (at the very least) an equal number of feminists who would like to see the entire male population eradicated. A lot of them seemed to attend my high school and, judging from their tones when I'd engage them in debates, it wasn't really a joke. ;) (Holy shit, you mean, opposite sides of the same political continuum are equally batshit crazy? Go figure!)<br /><br />I fail to see how it's surprising that some people will support Gunwitch when you've still got people running around who idolize Hitler and shit. If humans can disappoint you, they will.<br /><br />As for booboo, I already responded to that comment and she dropped the conversation.Dr. Deezeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00147972206368957436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-38395138586773084842011-01-11T02:42:50.473-06:002011-01-11T02:42:50.473-06:00Deezee: "It's a pretty big leap to say th...Deezee: "It's a pretty big leap to say this and then jump to the conclusion that MRAs must support Gunwitch or what have you."<br /><br />Yeah, that's why I DID NOT MAKE THAT LEAP or suggest anything of the sort, a point I already made quite explicitly in an earlier post. Just so no one forgets: <br /><br />I DO NOT THINK MRAS SUPPORT SHOOTING WOMEN IN THE FACE. <br /><br />Please respond to things I actually say, not shit you make up and attribute to me. Most MRAs probably don't know even who he is. Almost no one but a few of his fans amongst PUAs are offering support for him. It's stunning to me that ANYONE supports him; that's why I posted comments from some who do. <br /><br />Most of my earlier blog post was on how vile his pickup techniques are, not the shooting itself, because virtually every civilized person in the world is opposed to shooting women in the face. <br /><br />Oh, and in case you've forgotten:<br /><br />I DO NOT THINK MRAS SUPPORT SHOOTING WOMEN IN THE FACE. <br /><br />(Though I should add that there are SOME MRAs who either support or don't give a fuck about other kinds of violence against women.) <br /><br />booboo can speak for herself, but she's already told you pretty directly that she DOES NOT think average men think this way:<br /><br />http://www.manboobz.com/2011/01/gun-loving-pick-up-guru-allegedly.html?showComment=1294447437844#c3544644803327796994Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-24124003362902934082011-01-11T01:51:46.627-06:002011-01-11T01:51:46.627-06:00"That said, there are a significant number of..."That said, there are a significant number of MRAs who see "Game" as an essential part of the MRM; see, for example, "The Misandry Bubble.""<br /><br />It's a pretty big leap to say this and then jump to the conclusion that MRAs must support Gunwitch or what have you. As far as I can tell, the only people defending Gunwitch are, well, Gunwitch fans (shocker). Almost every single other person in the "MRM" has said Gunwitch is a worthless douche. Yet folks like Booboonation still take this as an example that not only are MRAs deluded, violence crazed sociopaths, but goes as far as to assert that AVERAGE MEN must also feel this way.<br /><br />I'm all for hyperbole and exaggeration - do it all the time, as a joke - but I think booboonation might actually be that deluded. Which is endlessly entertaining but a little sad.Dr. Deezeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00147972206368957436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-64870615012988854792011-01-10T20:39:28.263-06:002011-01-10T20:39:28.263-06:00Women's shelter funding is extremely difficult...Women's shelter funding is extremely difficult to get for women, in the state of California, Schwartznegger at one point yanked ALL the funding. <br /><br />"are not willing to give enough tax payers to make such a thing happen", the way this is written I'm not sure what you mean. I took it to be a mis speak and that you mean funding. <br /><br />Your arguments about not helping a gender are not true in any way, you are just hiding behind language saying "help" and things like that.<br /><br />I have made the argument that women need their own shelters, fought hard to get them, men can do the same, might not use them anyhow, explained my thoughts on that, but you don't address anything I said, and instead throw a word like "bigot" out. Why is it up to women to take care of you? If you had any proof that there was a need for shelters, you could get funding. There is no proof. It is not the fault of feminists that men are not getting murdered because of a particular dynamic where they have no place to go. <br /><br />If men feel they have no place to go and are dying because of that, you can fight for funding just like women had to. And furthermore, they were fought every step of the way by misogynist crackpots (men and women) that called them runaway houses for brides. I mean if a "bride" wants to run away to some stranger run shelter for temporary assistance (you don't get to stay very long)instead of living with their husbands, there is an issue there. <br /><br />Is is not the fault of WOMEN if you have a hard time getting funding together. Was it the fault of MEN that it's so hard, and remains difficult for women to retain that funding? <br /><br />Admit that you cannot handle this issue or the points I make directly and you will have to keep spouting your nebulous concepts to get by. Men CANNOT stay at women's shelters, even the battering law enforcement might admit that to you, it is a crack pot idea. <br /><br />The bottom line is, in my last two comments I have outlined why you cannot show need for these shelters, and you cannot answer my points. <br /><br />And it takes a real twisted jackass to look at a murder rate of women, see houses built to save these women's lives and call that female privilege. That is some serious crackpottery right there. WOW. We need a manboobz post on that logic. Again, where are your murder stats, and they must be coupled with a dynamic that men have nowhere to go AND they will use the shelter services. <br /><br />And throwing the word "equality" out is as meaningless in this context as it is to throw it out for separate locker rooms or washrooms. These facilities MUST be separate. If you want me to get into even more examples other than what we know about law enforcement batterers I will, but I shouldn't have to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-30496867969497031932011-01-10T20:25:39.939-06:002011-01-10T20:25:39.939-06:00nick, 2 things:
1) DV shelters get the overwhelm...nick, 2 things: <br /><br />1) DV shelters get the overwhelming majority of their funding not from government but from private donations.<br /><br />2) You know how they started getting the govt. money they do get? Did the government just magically decide one day to start giving money to them? No. It took years of organizing and advocacy on the part of feminists and other activists who essentially created shelters from nothing. In the world of political activism, no one simply gets things handed to them. You have to actually work for it, instead of simply whining about the unfairness of it all online. <br /><br />Also a bad idea: spitting on potential allies in the struggle by actively trying to prevent people from donating money to women's DV shelters, as Glenn Sacks has done.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-67393674607702253762011-01-10T19:05:25.373-06:002011-01-10T19:05:25.373-06:00"And Nick, Men can form their DV shelters exa..."And Nick, Men can form their DV shelters exactly the way women got theirs. The nature of domestic violence requires segregation the way that locker rooms do. Obviously I am misinformed about the prevalence and severity of DV against men, so please, form shelters by all means."<br /><br />You see there is a problem, the so called oppressive governments against women are not willing to give enough tax payers to make such a thing happen and yet VAWA gets billions. Female privilege and male oppression? Definitely. But feminists will deny any type of female privilege to the end because they are extreme sexist bigots who simply don't give a hoots about men.<br /><br />Secondly, feminists claim that they are about gender equality so much. Do you know what gender equality means? You have to be dumb if you think gender equality means to only help one gender and not the other. But what else can you expect from a typical bigot?<br /><br />If I as a man refused to help women in any way, I would be labelled as a misogynist creep<br /><br />Feminists would have to be the biggest shameless hypocrites on the face of this planet.nicko81mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01019892922597391646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-17599725819895539022011-01-10T17:37:07.114-06:002011-01-10T17:37:07.114-06:00Biscuit Lorena made national news and was villiani...Biscuit Lorena made national news and was villianized. She is not an example of any imbalance. Horrendous violence happens to women daily and that does not make national news, it's every day occurrence. Also, this blog explores misogyny. Unfortunately, many MRA's fall into that category as do PUA's. This guy was a big name in the PUA community. MRA and PUA over lap, I have seen this personally with MRAs that I have run into. Some of these groups definitely fall under fringe element label, and once in awhile we get a deadly story coming out of the mix. <br /><br />Please do not minimize misogyny or violence against women. If someone is concerned about violence against men (targeted because they are men and hated as men, the way misogyny works), they are free to blog about that, and probably do. <br /><br />And Nick, Men can form their DV shelters exactly the way women got theirs. The nature of domestic violence requires segregation the way that locker rooms do. Obviously I am misinformed about the prevalence and severity of DV against men, so please, form shelters by all means. <br /><br />You might soon come to realize that shelters had to be created to take care of a population that had nowhere to go, and that men would not utilize such a service even if they were beaten. The shelters were borne out of the dynamic that women had to run for their lives and could not run to family. One, many people do not live near their family but two, they did not want to put their family in danger. Women that work in shelters have been killed and the shelter in my hometown had to be a secret even from the police because they were abusers, as well. There is an alarming rate of DV abuse in the homes of law enforcement. It's possible that men, even if abused do not need shelters, or not enough do to keep them running.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com