tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post2445665495452000663..comments2023-10-12T02:29:10.937-05:00Comments on the we hunted the mammoth (formerly man boobz) blogger archive: When you assume about Assange, you make an ass of you and meAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-15900467462596854742010-12-11T06:31:38.405-06:002010-12-11T06:31:38.405-06:00Er, minor error on my part, she said that AFTER th...Er, minor error on my part, she said that AFTER the charges were thrown out, i.e. AFTER the legal process had already declared them to not be rapists. That makes what she said even vile. If you're not a total hypocrite you will add Amanda Marcotte to your enemies list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-64901166365128284842010-12-11T06:28:30.557-06:002010-12-11T06:28:30.557-06:00Gee David, it's interesting that you would use...Gee David, it's interesting that you would use Amanda Marcotte as a reference for not jumping to conclusions about criminal charges. Did you forget that <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/02/meet-john-edwardss-new-blogger-in-chief/" rel="nofollow">Amanda Marcotte herself assumed that the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty from the outset</a> rather than waiting for the trial? Not only that, but rather than defend her position when attention was called to it, she simply deleted it and then made up some bullshit story about it disappearing due to computer issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-48696026625025243282010-12-11T00:25:50.690-06:002010-12-11T00:25:50.690-06:00Yohan:
I don't know if you've noticed, bu...Yohan:<br /><br />I don't know if you've noticed, but I've never gendered the victim or the accused rapist in my statements. I do that for a reason- because I am aware that men and women are raped and men and women can rape.<br /><br />Feminism is a very established movement that, at it's core (though there are some radicals, just like in any movement) wants equality and betterment of society. <br /><br />All I've seen of MRAs is sexism, racism, homophobia and violence. This may not be true for individuals, but that has been my experience with them. Also, men have never been a group that has been hated on very much. There is some, and that's what you should be fighting against, in my opinion. Men are not idiots, men are equally good at parenting, et cetera. Perhaps with a goal of broadening the view of what being a man is and some time, men's rights can be established.LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-85844965585412215942010-12-10T20:52:09.587-06:002010-12-10T20:52:09.587-06:00Well said. But I'm disappointed to see you lin...Well said. But I'm disappointed to see you linking to Marcotte's piece, which is problematic in its characterization of Assange and Wikileaks. Here's a piece I wrote addressing her post.<br /><br />http://mattcornell.org/blog/2010/12/wikileaks-is-a-feminist-issue/Matt Cornellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406493326563753387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-51660543729807993512010-12-10T15:22:20.190-06:002010-12-10T15:22:20.190-06:00@Yohan "This is a very general statement and ...@Yohan "This is a very general statement and this can be said about almost any crime." YES!!! That was my point. <br /><br />"A failure to get a conviction is not good evidence either that the accused person was getting away unpunished." Actually, it is pretty darned good evidence of that, we don't impose criminal sentences when defendents are found not guilty. I think what you mean is that it is not good evidence in and of itself that the accused truly committed the crime. I agree with that (modified) statement, however, I do not agree with this one "More likely he really did not do that crime." For the reason you claim to understand at the beginning of your comment, but cleary do not.DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-41205913740796618092010-12-10T14:40:01.750-06:002010-12-10T14:40:01.750-06:00DarkSideCat: The low conviction rate alone shows n...<i>DarkSideCat: The low conviction rate alone shows nothing in either case, because failure to get a conviction alone is not good evidence that the person was not actually a victim of a crime.</i><br /><br />This is a very general statement and this can be said about almost any crime.<br /><br />Most crimes are not reported anyway, for example theft.<br /><br />To be a victim of a crime is one side, however to identify and to convict the perpetrator is a totally different story.<br /><br />A failure to get a conviction is not good evidence either that the accused person was getting away unpunished. More likely he really did not do that crime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-66133422440128967452010-12-10T14:28:25.820-06:002010-12-10T14:28:25.820-06:00LexieDi said...
Yohan:
I get that you're worr...<i>LexieDi said... <br />Yohan:<br />I get that you're worried about false accusations happening and people going to jail for them. However, rape and sexual harassment still happens too and you and MRAs don't seem worried about that at all. </i><br /><br />There are 100s or maybe even 1000s of various feminist international and national organizations, which take care solely of the needs of women. Many of these organizations receive millions of USD out of the tax-payer's money.<br /><br /><br />The MRM consists merely of rather small interest groups or advocacy groups, which take care of males.<br /><br />Compared to the large feminist movement, the MRM is tiny and has to pay all its expenses out of the own wallet.<br /><br />I often ask myself, why feminists are so afraid of the MRM.<br /><br />About rape and sexual harassment, we show feminists, that male victims of malicious females do exist. Who cares about male victims, often minors, of sex crimes? <br /><br />There are female paedophiles, there are malicious women accusing innocent men for sex-crimes which never took place...<br /><br />Without the MRM, such issues would be brushed under the carpet as they are not politically correct.<br /><br />There are very few publications about FEMALE sex offenders.<br /><br />http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/pblct/so/female/female-02-eng.shtmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-58470509397624112452010-12-10T13:17:15.609-06:002010-12-10T13:17:15.609-06:00LexieDi said...
It wasn't too complicated for...<i>LexieDi said... <br />It wasn't too complicated for me to understand, you just word things extremely badly. Seriously, take some English lessons </i><br /><br />I am not sure, if this is addressed to me. There are many MRAs worldwide, who are not native English speakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-72806146250422114782010-12-10T12:37:42.822-06:002010-12-10T12:37:42.822-06:00IR said: "@Cat - such snark"
Hilarious....IR said: "@Cat - such snark"<br /><br />Hilarious. Cat directly refutes an error on your part, in one of many carefully argued substantive comments she's made here, and this is the best response you can come up with?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00569290850910434331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-12505663506699286862010-12-10T12:34:36.381-06:002010-12-10T12:34:36.381-06:00IR:
"Such charisma. Surely you only have my ...IR:<br /><br />"Such charisma. Surely you only have my best intentions in mind, much like any feminist nitpicking a man. I'll sign up right away, and take some women's studies classes while I'm at it!"<br /><br />Trust me, I'd say that to anyone- man or woman- who wrote badly. It's not just because you're male.<br /><br />I don't expect you to take women's studies.. but hey, more power to ya.LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-38269741553824820682010-12-10T10:49:22.377-06:002010-12-10T10:49:22.377-06:00Shall we also ascribe malicious intent to Christin...Shall we also ascribe malicious intent to Christina Hoff Sommers in her own errata when repudiating the death-from-anorexia statistics that appeared in Naomi Wolf's book, "The Beauty Myth" (which was from whence Gloria Steinem obtained her information)? Why do we tolerate this just because the "feminist" source is one that MRAs commonly promote?<br />Naomi Wolf has admitted <i>her</i> error, Christina Hoff Sommers has not.<br /><br />Sommers stated in her book, "Who Stole Feminism?", that the actual number of deaths from anorexia is "less than 100 per year." This figure is based on a count of death certificates which list anorexia as the cause of death, and does not take into account deaths which occurred due to complications arising from the pre-condition of anorexia, such as heart failure.<br />If we looked at the death certificates of persons who had other diseases (AIDS, for example), we would find that very few people die from AIDS, as the actual cause of death is usually due to something else (pneumonia, for example) that was brought on or exacerbated by the pre-condition known as AIDS. So does that mean that we should take AIDS less seriously because very few people die from it?Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789436253418072535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-75339582112641864892010-12-10T09:00:21.504-06:002010-12-10T09:00:21.504-06:00@Cat - such snark. And I suppose you find the rema...@Cat - such snark. And I suppose you find the remaining 85-99% of the accused weren't exonerated as well? Either way, it seems I misread. It's alright, it wasn't exactly a world-ending mistake, and the misstatement was not far from the truth either. Regardless, I should have written "second most exonerated crime." Unlike a feminist, I can acknowledge my errata and issue a correction. My mistakes also are never happy accidents, as for feminists who claim that "1 in 4 college women are raped." Funny how their mistakes always result in the appropriation of billions in taxpayer dollars to their organizations.<br />Take, for example, Gloria Steinem who claimed that "<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n30_v10/ai_15640024/" rel="nofollow">in this [America] alone, about 150,000 females die of anorexia each year</a>." This is malicious deception - imagine if an engineer falsely claimed that a certain material was exponentially stronger than it actually was? Even if the damages were only monetary - misappropriated tax dollars in the case of Steinem - he'd have his license revoked and possibly serve jail time! Why do we tolerate this just because the source is a feminist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-53722158754138677292010-12-10T07:02:01.942-06:002010-12-10T07:02:01.942-06:00"Surely you only have my best intentions in m..."Surely you only have my best intentions in mind, much like any feminist nitpicking a man."<br /><br />LOL!! Perhaps LexieDi is just returning the favour, as clearly you only have <i>our</i> best intentions in mind:<br />"I recommend in this case to call them out on their clearly deceptive - which they may be so well programmed or dependent on their ideology that even they do not notice - and use this to help them see the error of their ways."Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789436253418072535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-17024730326878309902010-12-10T05:15:37.872-06:002010-12-10T05:15:37.872-06:00"Compared to the other countries that were ex..."Compared to the other countries that were examined in the government report that I cited, Sweden does have a disproportionately low conviction rate, and therefore, in a reasonable evaluation, a disproportionately high rate of false allegations." Er, no, one does not follow from the other. Let's accept that Sweden does have a lower conviction rate compared to other countries. What exactly does that tell you? It tells you that Sweden has a lower conviction rate compared to other countries. You need actual evidence that the causal explanation you give is better than any other random explanation someone pulls out of their ass. I'm from an area where there is a disproportionately low rate of white men being convicted for assaulting a black person or stealing the black person's property. Is that, in your mind, proof that black people lie and falsely accuse others of crimes more often? After all, that's what you are asserting, isn't it? That a disproportionately low conviction rate proves the accusations are false at a higher rate? Because, as someone who knows the actual social factors involved, I will assert that black victims 'loose' far more often because it is an area with a lot of racism and juries are found based on land ownership, ensuring that virtually every jury is all white. The low conviction rate alone shows nothing in either case, because failure to get a conviction alone is not good evidence that the person was not actually a victim of a crime.<br /><br />@IR, I love how your own links are enough to refute your claim "The study identified 199 murder exonerations, 73 of them in capital cases. It also found 120 rape exonerations." Now, let me ask, in what universe is 199<120? The article you link to does not say what it you think it says, even in terms of generalities. Critical reading skills, like math, do not appear to be your strong point.DarkSideCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867049908238110075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-44029836490761150912010-12-10T01:44:59.269-06:002010-12-10T01:44:59.269-06:00"It wasn't too complicated for me to unde..."It wasn't too complicated for me to understand, you just word things extremely badly. Seriously, take some English lessons."<br />Such charisma. Surely you only have my best intentions in mind, much like any feminist nitpicking a man. I'll sign up right away, and take some women's studies classes while I'm at it! Oh, and I've also been told to "go gay" by feminists, though that might be more difficult.<br />"All (as in the only thing) I am saying (nothing more) is that there are more reasons than just "the alleged victim is a liar" for that one statistic. Why is it so difficult for you to get that through into your brain?"<br />I acknowledged there were other factors. I also acknowledged that the most likely explanation. Obviously if there's more dropped cases in a court of law, and rape is seen as an equally vile act in the US and Sweden, and both have similar jury and investigation systems - then there must be some cause for those 14 extra dropped cases. At least some of them will be false accusations.<br />Either way, any accusation with a 1% conviction rate and a heavy social stigma attached warrants some scrutiny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-31801891516989182852010-12-10T01:26:45.252-06:002010-12-10T01:26:45.252-06:00It wasn't too complicated for me to understand...It wasn't too complicated for me to understand, you just word things extremely badly. Seriously, take some English lessons.<br /><br />I don't know what you're trying to project onto me. All (as in the only thing) I am saying (nothing more) is that there are more reasons than just "the alleged victim is a liar" for that one statistic. Why is it so difficult for you to get that through into your brain?LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-40567172032328068212010-12-10T01:12:43.268-06:002010-12-10T01:12:43.268-06:00Yohan:
I was referring to this, "However fem...Yohan:<br /><br />I was referring to this, "However feminists want to change that, and the accused man should be seen as guilty from beginning on in case of sex-crimes, and HE has to prove to his expenses that he did not do that crime."<br /><br />Uhm. I've never heard of any feminist who wants to do that and, I, as a feminist don't want to do that.<br /><br />I understand that false accusations happen and they're horrible and anyone who makes false accusations should be thrown in jail.<br /><br />I get that you're worried about false accusations happening and people going to jail for them. However, rape and sexual harassment still happens too and you and MRAs don't seem worried about that at all.LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-77484785728437347072010-12-10T01:12:42.920-06:002010-12-10T01:12:42.920-06:00"All that I'm saying is that there are to..."All that I'm saying is that there are too many variables. You can't make a blanket statement about why cases were dropped because there is an UNKNOWN NUMBER OF BLUE MARBLES."<br />This is a typical tactic feminists use to derail a legitimate conversation or question. They will, in the face of overwhelming evidence (in this case a 15:1 conviction ratio) claim that the topic has become "too complicated" for their understanding. They will proceed to project this self-imposed incompetence on everyone else.<br />With a scientific background, I understand the basic laws of causality. For example, if I were to connect two different batteries to a voltmeter and one read 15x the voltage of a second one, I would understand that it is most likely the second one has less electrical potential.<br /><br />There are many different variables - the conductivity of the wires or terminals, the accuracy of the voltmeter, etc. However, I can acknowledge that in the face of all of these different factors, the most likely truth.<br /><br />Humans aren't batteries? True, and the analogy remains - two clear factors with a few minor ones leading to two clear causalities. The fact is, in something like false rape cases the number of dropped rape charges will be proportional to the number of frivolous lawsuits. Unfortunately, a feminist will, out of spite or just blind ideology, attempt to bring the conversation to a halt using the methods outlined. I recommend in this case to call them out on their clearly deceptive - which they may be so well programmed or dependent on their ideology that even they do not notice - and use this to help them see the error of their ways. Other examples include David misrepresenting the Men's Rights Movement or feminists injecting emotion and irrationality (MISOGYNIST! WOMAN-HATER! GAY!) into a simple discussion. Once again, keep a level head, brush off their insults and see this as a good opportunity to give the public (or even the feminist) a case study of feminism.<br /><br />Hopefully this has been an... educational experience for anyone reading. Either way, I had a little fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-35104471101137225952010-12-09T22:28:04.169-06:002010-12-09T22:28:04.169-06:00LexieDi said...
@ Yohan: Really? Feminists just w...<i>LexieDi said... <br />@ Yohan: Really? Feminists just want to be able to accuse men willy-nilly of rape? </i><br /><br />This is not what I said.<br /><br />I said:<br /><br /><i>It's not acceptable, that a malicious woman is allowed by law to pick out any man and is accusing him for not-existing sex-crimes solely out of her bad mood and remains unpunished.<br />.....<br />A man might face - innocent - many years in prison, while his accuser remains anonymous and unpunished for creating sex-crimes out of fantasy.</i><br /><br />This is a good story, link below, and if you read it you will understand what I mean and what are the concerns of the MRAs.<br /><br />We MRAs want laws to be changed that such a case, see below, cannot happen again, however feminists strongly oppose that. <br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287534/Innocent-Warren-Blackwell-served-3-years-false-rape-claim-fantasist.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-75613047950794916752010-12-09T21:52:16.633-06:002010-12-09T21:52:16.633-06:00IR:
Resembles? That marble looks JUST LIKE false...IR: <br /><br />Resembles? That marble looks JUST LIKE false accusation.<br /><br />Jesus, I hope you're not a teacher. <br /><br />Sweden wouldn't have 15 times more red marbles, they'd have 15 times more marbles period. You don't know the ratio. There could be a billion blue marbles, which would mean that false accusation is extremely rare (which may or may not be true).<br /><br />All that I'm saying is that there are too many variables. You can't make a blanket statement about why cases were dropped because there is an UNKNOWN NUMBER OF BLUE MARBLES.<br /><br />Was I supposed to go "OOOH! Pretty AND shiny?!"LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-36841171172335891632010-12-09T17:26:11.079-06:002010-12-09T17:26:11.079-06:00"My conclusions are just as reasonable as you..."My conclusions are just as reasonable as yours. Either way, all of our conclusions are speculation."<br />@LexieDi - Let me break this down into terms you can understand:<br />I have ten shiny red marbles. I put those marbles into a bag with an unknown number of dull blue marbles. Each of those red marbles resembles one false rape accusation.<br />Follow? Good.<br />Now, the United States has a 15% rape conviction rate. Let's assume all of the convicted actually raped a woman - <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/n7j23157434765l8/" rel="nofollow">men</a> <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-07.htm" rel="nofollow">are more likely to be exonerated for rape than any other crime</a>, but we're trying to keep it simple for you. So, we have 17 of 20 dropped rape cases.<br />Now, let's look at Sweden. They have about 15 times, or 255 bags of pretty, shiny red marbles.<br /><br />Now, which country, the United States or Sweden, most likely has more of those nice red marbles? No, no counting on your fingers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-46634611992097133902010-12-09T13:44:31.538-06:002010-12-09T13:44:31.538-06:00John Dias:
Did I say I thought all 99% of accused...John Dias:<br /><br />Did I say I thought all 99% of accused rapists were guilty? Hm. No. In fact, I didn't make ANY assumptions about anything other than I do not believe that 99% (or a "disproportionate" number) of dismissed cases are dismissed because of lying alleged victims. But thanks for speaking for me. I'll take it from here. <br /><br />The ONLY thing I'm saying is that it is not likely, just due to friggin' chances, 99% or even a "disproportionate" number of those rape cases are dismissed due only to false accusations. I don't see why you don't understand that there could be any number of reasons a case is dismissed. <br /><br />It's also extremely difficult to try a rape case as rape is a very muddled subject. So, yes, I think that some (perhaps not very many) dismissed cases had a victim who honestly feels as though he or she was raped and/or a defendant who feels he or she got away with it, just because it's so hard to have a clear picture of what happened and evidence doesn't always help much.<br /><br />You like to deal in facts so much but you go around making uninformed assumptions that you are totally okay in spewing, but when I do the same, you get all sorts of uptight. <br /><br />My conclusions are just as reasonable as yours. Either way, all of our conclusions are speculation. <br /><br />My reasons for there being a low conviction rate come from the exact same place your reason does- the statistic we have and my head. (I'm just smart enough to realize that there are lots of reasons a case may be dismissed.) And my reason is, therefore, no less true or false than yours is.<br /><br />Lets see... do YOU have any evidence other <br />than speculation that there are more false accusations of rape in Sweden in particular? Do you have any evidence to support that suggestion?LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-8074500247299701442010-12-09T04:03:39.883-06:002010-12-09T04:03:39.883-06:00@LexieDi:
Compared to the other countries that we...@LexieDi:<br /><br />Compared to the other countries that were examined in the government report that I cited, Sweden does have a disproportionately low conviction rate, and therefore, in a reasonable evaluation, a disproportionately high rate of false allegations. A defendant's innocence of a crime is consistent with a more difficult prospect of convicting that defendant, since all the evidence weighs in his favor.<br /><br />When police investigate, when prosecutors examine, when cases are tried, when witnesses testify, when evidence is submitted, and when juries evaluate, and when the entire thing amounts to an extremely low <b>one percent</b> conviction rate -- after all this, why is it so difficult for you to accept the perfectly reasonable conclusion that the accused was innocent from the start? So do you believe that even a not-guilty jury verdict doesn't exonerate a defendant? And you're telling me in your conspiracy-laden mind that 99 percent of the time all of those citizens were dead wrong, and your ideology was right? And you accuse me of "writing some bull?"<br /><br />Lastly, it seems to me that it hasn't occurred to you that in addition to all of these third parties weighing the evidence and concluding that it was not warranted to either arrest, prosecute or convict -- in addition to their judgment -- the defendant also declared his innocence. And still, you are trying to make the case that a lower conviction rate has nothing to do with a higher rate of innocence by defendants.<br /><br />What if 1 out of 1000 were convicted? 1 in 10000? Is there any point at which you start to wonder if too many people are getting unjustly caught up in the criminal justice web?<br /><br />I'm getting tired of this uninformed conversation with you. I like to deal in facts. I look at the facts and I make a reasonable conclusion based on them, especially when the facts are reinforced by the judgment of people who have evaluated the evidence themselves, such as police, prosecutors and juries. If you have a point to make, then support your point with credible evidence, not just college-grade snark. You suggested earlier in this thread that a low conviction rate for rape in Sweden in particular may be due to inadequate law enforcement practices or resources. Do you have any evidence to support that suggestion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-67803045300323735282010-12-09T03:41:27.773-06:002010-12-09T03:41:27.773-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9111611851606292564.post-16051839399163491582010-12-09T02:32:17.518-06:002010-12-09T02:32:17.518-06:00John Dias:
Your original sentence was worded to s...John Dias:<br /><br />Your original sentence was worded to state that the low conviction rate for rape cases in Sweden meant that that must be directly linked to the number of false accusations. <br /><br />You said, "...in Sweden, 99% of rape cases fail to result in a conviction, indicating a disproportionate number of false allegations THERE." (Emphasis in caps, mine.)<br /><br />You were not talking about from one country to another, you were saying that because people were not convicted, alleged victims were lying. <br /><br />It's not my fault that you took a statistic you found and wrote some bull around it to try to make it work for you and look a certain way. (Which is what I honestly think you did, as you seem like an intelligent person, not like a person who actually believes that crap you tried to sell.)<br /><br />I'm not trying to impress anyone with my being a college student. Being a college student is no great feat; hundreds of thousands of people go to college (even women). What I was saying is that college students often BS their work, and, therefore, I am good at recognizing BS. Context clues. They're helpful.<br /><br />Trust me, I have no desire or need to impress you or anyone else.LexieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525338055931137783noreply@blogger.com